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Link to open 2020 and beyond version of this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-beyond.html
My (LoganFlyer's) guide to maximizing your bump chances on Delta:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30484249-post1713.html
(The concise version:
1. Use the App to see if more people are looking for seats than there are seats available. As part of the Customer Commitment, gate agents, phone res agents, and tickets agents must tell you if a flight is overbooked if you ask. (They don't need to say by how many seats.)
2. Do everything you can to get on the volunteer list through OLCI or a kiosk at the airport, since some GAs use that list.
3. Talk to the GA as soon as the gate opens up--don't wait for them to make an announcement.
4. Don't be afraid to negotiate with the GA.)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-beyond.html
My (LoganFlyer's) guide to maximizing your bump chances on Delta:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30484249-post1713.html
(The concise version:
1. Use the App to see if more people are looking for seats than there are seats available. As part of the Customer Commitment, gate agents, phone res agents, and tickets agents must tell you if a flight is overbooked if you ask. (They don't need to say by how many seats.)
2. Do everything you can to get on the volunteer list through OLCI or a kiosk at the airport, since some GAs use that list.
3. Talk to the GA as soon as the gate opens up--don't wait for them to make an announcement.
4. Don't be afraid to negotiate with the GA.)
Compensation: “Bumps” — Voluntary and Involuntary Denied Boarding [2000-2019]
#136
Join Date: Dec 2007
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The regulation was printed in the Federal Register today. It will go into effect May 19.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/08-1145.htm
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/08-1145.htm
#137
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Can anyone tell me the current DOT rule if there is one. I am still steamed over the compensation for the MD** reinspections. With the devaluation of Skymiles I feel the 10k they gave was a slap in the face.
#138
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While these forums are very useful, I am always amazed at how travelers go here for information rather than contacting the airline directly. If you get an e-mail reply to your question, that is proof of what you can expect to get from the airline. This is what all the travel troubleshooters suggest....
Travel troubleshooters are great when you need to do a post-trip autopsy. There never seems to be one at the gate when when people are being bumped. Email the airline? Most people don't have computer access at that time either, and it usually takes a minimum of 2-4 hours to receive a reply. Think they'll hold the flight?
The airlines are lengendary for providing irrelevant answers to emailed questions. Rots of ruck.
#139
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Unfortunately the DOT rule only addresses overbooking, not cancellations. Since these cancellations are within the airline's control, they should pay for meals and hotels until you can get another flight. Alternatively, you should be entitled to a refund.
#140
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NEW IDB Rules
Anyone have INFO on the new $800 IDB rule passed recently (I think) by Congress??
#141
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#142
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It's a DOT rule, not law.
Follow the links in post 4 or 14.
Follow the links in post 4 or 14.
#143
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Volunteer Compensation
Has anyone volunteered to give up their seats in an oversold flight and get compensation in something other than crappy DL money?
I was gonna fall 8K MQM short of GM status and I was hoping to get a voluntary compensation but only to negotiate for the much needed MQMs.
Has anyone done that? Is it possible to get MQMs when you give up your seats?
I was gonna fall 8K MQM short of GM status and I was hoping to get a voluntary compensation but only to negotiate for the much needed MQMs.
Has anyone done that? Is it possible to get MQMs when you give up your seats?
#144
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How can you still get MQM's for 09 status? I thought that get's wiped out Dec 31st.
MQM's are almost impossible to be gifted to you by Delta.... I had a flight cancelled that would put me over PM, 167 miles mind you.... they didn't do it, but still gave my PM status anyway.
MQM's are almost impossible to be gifted to you by Delta.... I had a flight cancelled that would put me over PM, 167 miles mind you.... they didn't do it, but still gave my PM status anyway.
#145
Join Date: Jan 2009
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[QUOTE=amps;11231351]How can you still get MQM's for 09 status? I thought that get's wiped out Dec 31st.
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I was refering to the 2008 miles, I guess you meant to ask for 08 and mistyped. In any case that is irrelevant. All I wonder is if getting MQMs was possible instead of DL money for voluntarily giving your seat up.
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I was refering to the 2008 miles, I guess you meant to ask for 08 and mistyped. In any case that is irrelevant. All I wonder is if getting MQMs was possible instead of DL money for voluntarily giving your seat up.
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I don't believe MQMs are in the GAs discretion at all but DL dollars (or cash), meal vouchers, and upgrades are common tools to keep customers happy. Many on FT would take the DL dollars and immediately book a mileage run.
#147
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Thanks icurhere2,
I never got the compensation, cause never needed to volunteer, but was just exploring the option. I'd rather get 10K MQM rather than getting the DL money enough to travel for same amount of MQM.
I never got the compensation, cause never needed to volunteer, but was just exploring the option. I'd rather get 10K MQM rather than getting the DL money enough to travel for same amount of MQM.
#148
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I've seen regular miles given but never MQMs for VDBs.
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I don't think that you'd be able to talk any GA into a deal like this, mostly because they wouldn't have the power to do this even if they wanted to (unless they rebooked you via HNL!).
#150
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Well, I know that part. I was referring to a past event there, that is why I used past tense, . I ended up going on a mileage run for 8500 miles in 28 hours (DAY-ATL-LAX-ATL-LAX-ATL-DAY) to close the gap, instead of waiting at the airport to be asked for volunteering....