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New Hi-J config of A350 (35H) launched on ATL-JNB/CPT this summer

New Hi-J config of A350 (35H) launched on ATL-JNB/CPT this summer

Old Dec 16, 2023, 5:49 pm
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New Hi-J config of A350 (35H) launched on ATL-JNB/CPT this summer

Effective June 1 (ATL-JNB) and Aug 1 (ATL-CPT), Delta will be flying a new A350 config referred to as 35H.

40 J
40 O
36 C+
159 Y

The LATAM birds (currently 35L) will be converted to this as well.

Iím assuming this is how Delta is planning to fight weight restrictions that often necessitate a fuel stop on the return.
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Old Dec 16, 2023, 5:51 pm
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What is the current capacity
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Old Dec 16, 2023, 8:09 pm
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Old Dec 16, 2023, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by arunhn
What is the current capacity
32 vs 40 D1 on 35H
48 vs 40 DPS on 35H
36 vs 36 Comfort Plus on 35H
190 vs 159 on 35H

There will be a mini D1 cabin of 8 seats behind door 2. This is the new A350 NPS (new production standard) from Airbus with a wider and slightly longer fuselage and larger galleys that will be the standard for all future A350s DL receives starting Q1 2024.
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Old Dec 16, 2023, 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Pianoman109876
The LATAM birds (currently 35L) will be converted to this as well.
If this new configuration relies on the NPS, how is that possible?
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Old Dec 17, 2023, 2:57 am
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Vantage XL+ seats or those aura seats?
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Old Dec 17, 2023, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by DLHubber
If this new configuration relies on the NPS, how is that possible?
Apologies for my poorly worded response, the new configuration is not dependent on the NPS. Itís just that the first aircraft to be in the new configuration will be the next A359s to be delivered to Delta in 2024; all 16 new deliveries will be the NPS version. So the existing A359s and A35Ls can all be converted to this new high-J version.
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Old Dec 17, 2023, 10:20 am
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Look at the seatmap of any ATL-JNB/CPT flight post August 1st, 2024
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Old Dec 17, 2023, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta
This is the new A350 NPS (new production standard) from Airbus with a wider and slightly longer fuselage and larger galleys that will be the standard for all future A350s DL receives starting Q1 2024.
Just to be clear, the dimensions of the fuselage remains exactly the same. Itís the cabin thatís a bit bigger, courtesy of re-sculpting the sidewalls, moving the aft pressure bulkhead and rearranging the flight deck, forward crew rest and monuments. NPS also brings a 1.2 ton weight reduction and the option of an additional 3 tons of MTOW.

NPS cannot be retrofitted.
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Old Dec 17, 2023, 5:13 pm
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I am going to miss those little reclining bed icons on the seat map. I know the seats are the same size as before but the seat map makes them look like small seats.
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Old Dec 19, 2023, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Pianoman109876
Effective June 1 (ATL-JNB) and Aug 1 (ATL-CPT), Delta will be flying a new A350 config referred to as 35H.

40 J
40 O
36 C+
159 Y

The LATAM birds (currently 35L) will be converted to this as well.

Iím assuming this is how Delta is planning to fight weight restrictions that often necessitate a fuel stop on the return.
They usually block about 100 seats on these flight on the return, the 359's have not been working out for DL like they wanted.
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Old Dec 19, 2023, 10:47 pm
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
They usually block about 100 seats on these flight on the return, the 359's have not been working out for DL like they wanted.
100 seats blocked! No way. How can DL make money blocking so many seats. Also this is how DL wanted the aircraft to work? Leaving aside the need to block seats, Iíve been surprised how few J seats DL has vs UA. Glad they are finally deploying a high J (although for UA it is more like 50 seats). Iím sure there are routes from ATL and JFK that could easily use a high J config.
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Old Dec 20, 2023, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by CaliguyNYC
100 seats blocked! No way. How can DL make money blocking so many seats. Also this is how DL wanted the aircraft to work? Leaving aside the need to block seats, Iíve been surprised how few J seats DL has vs UA. Glad they are finally deploying a high J (although for UA it is more like 50 seats). Iím sure there are routes from ATL and JFK that could easily use a high J config.
I have a friend who is a purser on these flights, he knows firsthand. The flight has had to stop in San Juan for fuel too.
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Old Dec 20, 2023, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by CaliguyNYC
100 seats blocked! No way. How can DL make money blocking so many seats. Also this is how DL wanted the aircraft to work? Leaving aside the need to block seats, I’ve been surprised how few J seats DL has vs UA. Glad they are finally deploying a high J (although for UA it is more like 50 seats). I’m sure there are routes from ATL and JFK that could easily use a high J config.
It really depends on the time of year but the 100 blocked seats and/or SJU tech stops are just in the most extreme conditions. Not to say that they aren't blocking seats, but it is usually around 30 max if any. The reduction of 30 seats and the NPS weights will help reduce most, if not all, restrictions on this route.

The problem is with tire speeds on the takeoff more than MTOW and these restrictions weren't totally avoided when the 777 was on the route.
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Old Dec 20, 2023, 10:56 pm
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Iím surprised that, with the opportunity to create a true high-J plane, they still end up with less J seats than UAís regular-J plane.

UA has 48 J seats on their 787-9s. Do UAís hubs in larger business centers generate that much more premium demand? DL has the JFK hub. Not as large as UA in EWR but there should still be decent premium demand for DL.
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