SkyClub change - would the $75k threshold drop?
Howdy, as we await the news from Delta on whatever rollback they'll do on status changes, I was curious - do we think we'll see them (DL/Amex) lower the $75,000 threshold for unlimited access. I am a huge SkyClub/Amex lounge fan. However, wouldn't' a $25k-$30k limit be much more reasonable and understandable for most consumers - I'm really trying to force myself to figure out if it really will be worth it to put all my family's spending on a vanilla platinum (I do not care for the reserve card)
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Originally Posted by DCflyer1222
(Post 35663592)
Howdy, as we await the news from Delta on whatever rollback they'll do on status changes, I was curious - do we think we'll see them (DL/Amex) lower the $75,000 threshold for unlimited access. I am a huge SkyClub/Amex lounge fan. However, wouldn't' a $25k-$30k limit be much more reasonable and understandable for most consumers - I'm really trying to force myself to figure out if it really will be worth it to put all my family's spending on a vanilla platinum (I do not care for the reserve card)
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On the vanilla Amex Plat, I doubt it because they’ve already set $75k as the threshold to bring complimentary guests into the Centurion Lounge.
And I think we’re seeing two separate sets of interests at play here, aside from reducing SkyClub crowding. For DL, setting the $75k threshold on the Reserve card helps them boost Amex spend and their Amex revenue. While the $75k threshold on the vanilla Amex Plat of course helps Amex with increased interchange fees, I suspect the real motivation is to reduce the reimbursements they are giving to DL for lounge access, especially for card members who don’t put a lot of spend on their Plat cards. |
Originally Posted by dw
(Post 35663608)
On the vanilla Amex Plat, I doubt it because they’ve already set $75k as the threshold to bring complimentary guests into the Centurion Lounge.
And I think we’re seeing two separate sets of interests at play here, aside from reducing SkyClub crowding. For DL, setting the $75k threshold on the Reserve card helps them boost Amex spend and their Amex revenue. While the $75k threshold on the vanilla Amex Plat of course helps Amex with increased interchange fees, I suspect the real motivation is to reduce the reimbursements they are giving to DL for lounge access, especially for card members who don’t put a lot of spend on their Plat cards. |
Originally Posted by DCflyer1222
(Post 35663619)
Could they make the $75k more worthwhile - by saying if you hit that - you can bring guests or does that go back to creating big problems?
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Could be wrong but I doubt they change it. My speculation is they’ll throw in some incremental spend incentive like “get X additional visits for every $Y in card spend - maybe in increments of $15K or $25K so it works out in even increments up to $75K where you’d then get unlimited visits.
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On the Plat card I highly doubt it. I could see some modifications for the Reserve however. With the new program changes, the choice between putting $75K on a Reserve vs AMEX Platinum card is a no brainer for the Platinum as 75K SkyPesos from the Reserve are essentially useless and $7.5K MQDs will get you Silver under the new program with no rollover. Not worth it.
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Originally Posted by DCflyer1222
(Post 35663592)
I was curious - do we think we'll see them (DL/Amex) lower the $75,000 threshold for unlimited access. I am a huge SkyClub/Amex lounge fan.
$75k annual spend will be the new norm to get unlimited access to DL SC or Amex CL. In ~3-5 years, expect that requirement to be at $100k/year spend. |
Originally Posted by ATLCDG
(Post 35663598)
I am doubtful this one will change as many believe this is AMEX driven. It may be that they add a few more visits. 75k is the same limit AMEX put on Priority Pass for the normal AMEX plat card earlier in the year.
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Originally Posted by BenA
(Post 35663946)
Did I miss a change Amex made to Priority Pass access on the Platinum? I didn't think spend was tied to that - just to guest privileges on the Amex branded lounges.
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There is already an extensive thread about people speculating about changes that may or may not be made, along with a generic airing of the grievances.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/2136665-delta-rolling-back-some-changes.html Seems likely we don't need another one. The speculation in this thread is no more informed than the speculation there. |
During the pandemic years when DL rolled over all MQMs, flyers' MQM balances ballooned. For me personally it went from just over 100k to about 350k. At the time, I wondered how this would impact the AmEx relationship. This was a BIG deal because AmEx MQM bonuses were one of the few non-flying ways to earn MQMs. Now we have our answer. They devalue their "generous" pandemic MQM rollovers to 5 cents on the dollar and tell us to instead use AmEx spending for MQDs. Rolling back their policy changes regarding access to lounges is counter to driving business to AmEx.
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It’ll change. To what? I don’t know. But it won’t stay at a straight $75k for the Reserve.
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I mean, I just got my American card today, and a whole lot of stuff that the DL Reserve would possibly be getting right now is going over there...
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Originally Posted by GrayAnderson
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I mean, I just got my American card today, and a whole lot of stuff that the DL Reserve would possibly be getting right now is going over there...
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