DL denying credit on non-DL ticket?

Old Jul 25, 23, 7:40 am
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DL denying credit on non-DL ticket?

I bought a ticket from NZ on NZ 086 ticket stock AKL-IAH-MSP in Y with IAH-MSP on DL with a DL flight number. Added my NZ FF number to the AKL-IAH flight then my DL number to the IAH-MSP flight. All seemed in order - even got an upgrade to F at PM window.

The flight credited 0 Skymiles and 0 MQMs on my statement. I sent off a credit request to DL and then called as well. The agent called the Skymiles Desk and was told it was incorrect and they would fix it overnight. But that didnt happen. Today get an email that they cant credit it as its not on DL ticket stock and not eligible for accrual. Is this correct?
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Old Jul 25, 23, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by NZ_Flyer
I bought a ticket from NZ on NZ 086 ticket stock AKL-IAH-MSP in Y with IAH-MSP on DL with a DL flight number. Added my NZ FF number to the AKL-IAH flight then my DL number to the IAH-MSP flight. All seemed in order - even got an upgrade to F at PM window.

The flight credited 0 Skymiles and 0 MQMs on my statement. I sent off a credit request to DL and then called as well. The agent called the Skymiles Desk and was told it was incorrect and they would fix it overnight. But that didn’t happen. Today get an email that they can’t credit it as it’s not on DL ticket stock and not eligible for accrual. Is this correct?
I believe there is some text (or used to be) on DL website that only flights on DL or partner issued tickets are eligible for mileage accrual.
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Old Jul 25, 23, 8:42 am
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I believe there is some text (or used to be) on DL website that only flights on DL or partner issued tickets are eligible for mileage accrual.
Stock doesn't matter. Hasn't in years.
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Old Jul 25, 23, 8:45 am
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Stock doesn't matter. Hasn't in years.
It hasn't mattered for years for DL or partner issued tickets, but I'm pretty sure there was some exclusion for tickets that are neither DL or partner issued (and issue here is NZ is not a DL partner). My guess is that exclusion is still in place.
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Old Jul 25, 23, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper
It doesn't matter for DL or partner issued tickets, but I'm pretty sure there was some exclusion for tickets that are neither DL or partner issued (and issue here is NZ is not a DL partner).
There was rule at one time yes. It was due to fact earning for a partber marketed flight could vary based on ticket stock. It however didn't prohibit earning at all. It just meant the earnings could vary.

Also anything DL marketed earns always except BE fares.

It's likely issue is one of two things.

1 NZ ticket and DL PNR don't match do to upgrade.

2 Last issue could be if was IRROP. I'm actually leaning towards thus as why would NZ book DL instead of UA.

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Not sure how they would even credit in these cases since the flights fare out on a single fare component.

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Originally Posted by xliioper
Not sure how they would even credit in these cases since the flights fare out on a single fare component.

It would earn as 13.94% of total ticketed fare/YQ. (Each IAH-MSP is 13.94% of total ticketed miles flown)
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Old Jul 25, 23, 9:28 am
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Program rules mention the formula for partner issued tickets, but nothing about non-partner issued tickets.

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Old Jul 25, 23, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper
Program rules mention the formula for partner issued tickets, but nothing about non-partner issued tickets.

Understand. They work the same exact way. I've had one this year ticketed by QF with DL segment. Posted just fine.

Theres no rule excluding DL marketed ever based on ticket stock. There is some restrictions on partner marketed flights, but thos are carrier specific and usually limited to a very select flights. (I believe these are legal issues, not just done cause they want)
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Thanks all. I went back to them and challenged the denial of a credit. Ill try a few HUCAs and see where that gets me as well. I thought its weird as Ive flown a MSP-LAX-AKL on an NZ ticket with DL segment and it credited without an issue, yet with the DL segment as the second flight instead of first its completely haywire.
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Thanks all. I went back to them and challenged the denial of a credit. Ill try a few HUCAs and see where that gets me as well. I thought its weird as Ive flown a MSP-LAX-AKL on an NZ ticket with DL segment and it credited without an issue, yet with the DL segment as the second flight instead of first its completely haywire.
Yeah just agents making stuff up. Sadly this is the norm since CV19 reduced staff.
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Old Jul 26, 23, 3:46 am
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2 Last issue could be if was IRROP. I'm actually leaning towards thus as why would NZ book DL instead of UA.
Maybe booking UA was more expensive? When I buy BR tickets to/from cities that BR doesn't serve, it's often possible to force UA connections, but DL, B6, or AS options tend to be cheaper.
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Maybe booking UA was more expensive? When I buy BR tickets to/from cities that BR doesn't serve, it's often possible to force UA connections, but DL, B6, or AS options tend to be cheaper.
I could book using UA or DL as the domestic leg to MSP via a number of connecting cities. Chose DL as I need to requalify for PM and dont need to for my *G as thats already done.
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