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When I saw the thread title I just assumed it was from a first time poster.
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I prefer to fly DL over UA and AA
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Sounds like the OP needed to fly Amtrak.
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There’s a lot to this story, a peculiar geographic identity crisis, the use of terms like “Freshwoman” and “steward”, the assumption FT readers need to be reminded of the Y seating config on a 767. But what I don’t get is connecting through JFK. Who does that and then swears off the airline when things don’t go perfectly? Takes a 3 mph breeze to ground stop JFK, LGA, and EWR. If you’re out $460 for a hotel, I at least hope you had the experience of staying at the TWA hotel by T5. I’m also sure you saved on airfare with this routing. All airlines have bad days, my service on the Sonoma County airporter bus is often better than Y on most airlines, but don’t blame DL when you played roulette on a timely JFK connection.
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Originally Posted by roberino
(Post 34683923)
This week’s “I had a rubbish flight and now everyone in the known universe should boycott that airline” thread. The sooner this is locked the better.
Better yet, looks like OP joined FT just to post this rant. As for the IFE issues, as someone who grew up flying RJs, prop planes and narrow bodies without IFE, I learned long ago to bring a nice book on a flight, lest you end up reading the Sky Mall catalog so many times you actually end up considering buying something from it. My current e-reader will hold a charge long beyond any flight I’ll take. As we come out of Summer of Aviation Pain 2: Transatlantic Boogaloo, I’ll just say that the pandemic pretty much broke the airline industry and everyone’s trying hard to fix what got broken. The odds that Delta will get you to your scheduled destination more or less on time are higher than with any of the other major US airlines even though they’re not as rock solid as they were in 2018 or 2019. Best of luck with your future travel needs. Flying right now is challenging. |
Originally Posted by Dr_wanderlust
(Post 34683933)
Lost all respectability with "steward." I really hope you feel better and get help.
Welcome to Flyertalk!!! |
Originally Posted by Dr_wanderlust
(Post 34683933)
Lost all respectability with "steward." I really hope you feel better and get help.
Welcome to Flyertalk!!!
Originally Posted by jwhuffman
(Post 34684417)
This is my same thought as well.....only use of steward, that I know nowadays are on Yachts.
I think most airlines use 'cabin crew,' 'cabin services director' these days. |
Originally Posted by Jeff767
(Post 34683954)
I think you are all being trolled!
Originally Posted by Passages
(Post 34683750)
When I was young and growing up in the South, there was a certain pride in Delta, which had its origins in Atlanta. We figured we could show all those big boys from New York City how it’s done down in the South.
Flash forward to 2022. My humble, no-status economy transcontinental seat came with no power in the overhead panel! So that we couldn’t turn on overhead lights and sat in darkness for most of the entirety of a 5-hour journey to New York. That was not the only thing that didn’t work on my IFE controls. Conveniently we couldn’t call for a flight attendant to inform them of numerous problems, like a useless USB port that was just a hole in plastic casing. The IFE itself had to be rebooted three times and, even then, the flight tracker was the only comedy worth watching as the moving map would randomly jump to Africa or Saipan. When we finally managed to flag down a steward his reaction was basically he couldn’t care less. When you are running a business, employee ennui is a fatal sign. Delta’s air and ground crews seemed very dispirited, as if life hadn’t turned out as hoped and, hey, this is a job I need. Though I grew up in the South, let me say there is nothing that sounds stupider than stupidity done with an Atlanta drawl. I have yet to describe the most egregious features of this Trip. For this transcontinental route, Delta mostly flies aged 767-300s. (For one thing it means this airline does not have funds to invest in capital stock.) The thing you must remember about the 767 is that even though the interior cabin had been updated, for structural reasons the middle overhead bins could not, the updating there consisting of the equivalent of a new coat of paint. Delta’s economy cabin in a 767 is configured as a 2-3-2, meaning for 43% of the economy seats it sells, those passengers will NOT be able to fit a normal-size carry on above their seats. No wonder on the morning of the flight we suddenly receive an “offer” from Delta to check in our carry on for “free.” Beware airlines suddenly foregoing a $30 fee. We take partial responsibility for not having planned this trip well. We were heading to our freshwoman daughter’s Parents Weekend and made the mistakes of: i/ Flying Delta; ii/ transiting through JFK; and, iii/ not building in enough of a time lag before our connection. Our juvenile jokes in youth included saying when you fail your driving test three times, they allow you to become a taxi driver. Four times? A bus driver. Now we wonder if you fail five times whether they allow you to design Air Traffic Control around JFK? Our flight was delayed due to, you guessed It, ATC. We actually made up all the time en route because we had a demon tailwind, but the approach to land at JFK was delayed because of, you guessed it, ATC. Originally my connecting flight was supposed to be close to my landing gate. By the time we arrived, it was in another concourse. We missed our connection. Experienced travelers will know what happened next, as we queued up for Delta’s “service” desk. Because it was ATC, Delta took no responsibility but to book me on the next morning’s flight. I always wonder about the massive reparation claims that must be coming in to ATC and to that other major culprit, Weather. For ATC alone it must be enough to build another new JFK. The clubby regulatory environment the US airlines have set up must be the envy of other industries, eg pharmaceuticals. To be able to invent bogeymen like ATC (ie, your regulator) amd Weather (God) to palm off responsibility (and get federal pandemic relief to boot) must see airline CEOs chuckling themselves to sleep every night. So $460 poorer for a hotel stay I didn’t need and 1/3 of my daughter’s college weekend wrecked later, what else do I have to complain about? Don’t Fly Delta. Welcome to FlyerTalk. |
Originally Posted by flyerfirsts
(Post 34684092)
Oh pish posh. A plane is a ship. The pilot is a Captain and the people who deal with the food and the inventorying of stores are Stewards. Is there some new name for the Purser as well?
It may be a surprise to you but the main job of a flight attendant is not to serve food! Their real training and expertise comes in, in the event of an emergency! Hopefully you’ll never have to see exactly how that works! |
So much tragedy in the world. we all need to lighten up just a tad.
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Originally Posted by El Boocho
(Post 34683860)
IBTL. Nice rant. Freshwoman, lol.
A great combination of over entitlement AND wokeness (Freshwoman?) with a healthy dose of an unrealistic view of TODAYS air transport system. The only thing missing, but possibly implied, is DYKWIA. I believe OP will probably never get their post count into double digits. |
wow...almost 3 pages....ummmm...nothing. This thread is a waste.
OP - sorry that this happened to you/your family...but really, can't blame DL for ATC issues. Move on. |
Originally Posted by Orange County Commuter
(Post 34683791)
Well, I hate to break the news to you but nothing in your post would make me quit flying an airline. It looks to me like you’re landing and takeoffs are equal which is the goal
There’s nothing you posted out here that couldn’t havr happened on another airline. Oh and by the way in 2022 they are flight attendants |
Originally Posted by Ghoulish
(Post 34684869)
The reason some airlines feel comfortable not repairing or updating a garbage product is because enough of their customer base enjoy the taste.
For US domestic service, I'm not seeing UA, AA, WN, etc. significantly improving service, or if they do, the improvement is not consistent. Things have been melting down all over--at least from my limited perspective. Do you have a concrete suggestion for not getting garbage--who the OP fly in order to avoid the cause of his screed? |
Originally Posted by flyerfirsts
(Post 34684092)
Is there some new name for the Purser as well?
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