initial e

So on Wednesday I’m going finally get petty silver medallion status. Then November I have to fly to Singapore which is ~22k MQMs. Will those 22k MQMs carryover into 2023 to help me get Gold status? TIA



Side question: Premium select pretty decent?

Oakshadow

If those 22k MQMs are in excess of 25k MQMs in your 2022 tally, yes.


If you're comparing it to other carriers PE products, yes, it's generally on par with most others. Is it worth the excess price from Econ? Totally your call.

sydneyracquelle

As long as you make Silver your MQMs above 25,000 (but not MQS/MQD) will carryover. However, some poor soul with 1M MQMs but $2999 MQDs and no Amex waiver carries over 0.

LoganFlyer

I want to know what "skylimes" are. Are there also "skylemons?" Do we turn those into "skylemonade" when we actually find a good miles redemption on DL?

Qwkynuf

Any MQMs that you earn this year that are in excess of your earned medallion level, will carry over into next year.

Remember that the status that you "earn" this year - is actually 2023 status. They just let you start using it immediately.

So, if for example, you hit 25,000 MQM today, and either had $3,000 MDQ or $25k spend on an eligible AmEx, or have the MQD waiver due to a non-US address, then you would be Silver starting tomorrow, then all the way through 2023, and until Jan 31 2024. However, on Jan 1, 2023, your status tracker (which would then be for 2024 status) would resent to zero MQD (because they never carry over), and zero MQM (because you used up all of your accumulated 25,000 to get to Silver).

If the above was true, but come November you fly 22,000 MQM on a $2,500 ticket, then after your trip you would be at 47,000 MQM and $5,500 MQD. You would still be Silver for the remainder of 2022 and all of 2023, but on Jan 1 your Silver status would "consume" 25k of your MQM - so you would start the year with 22,000 MQM and $0 MQD.

At that point, you would need 3,000 MQM and $3,000 spend to RE-qualify Silver (which would take you all the way through Jan 2025). But if you want to get to Gold (for the remainder of 2023 and all of 2024), you would need to earn an additional 28,000 MQMs (total 50,000) and $6,000 spend if you are subject to spend requirements.

The main things to remember are

• The MQM and MQD that you earn today are always accrued toward next year's status.
• This year's status was earned last year.
• Spend (MQDs or AmEx) always resets to $0 on Jan 1
• MQDs never carry over
• Status earned this year (in 2022) does not give you a "head start" on the next level of status next year (in 2023). In other words, the threshold for Gold next year will be 50k MQM - not your existing Silver status plus 25k. Carryover MQM can help with this, but the spend requirement remains.This is true at all levels. I am Diamond and will carry over close to 400,000 MQMs into 2023, which is MORE than enough to re-qualify. But I will still need to hit $15,000 MQMs to extend my status

MSPeconomist

To answer accurately, we need to know how you're getting Silver status. It can make a big difference.

initial e

Basic travel will get me the MQMs and I have the Amex waiver.

I think I'm starting to understand this. So basically in 2023, I'll get a head start of the 22k but need either the waiver + the additional MQMs to make Gold. Then so fourth. So essentially, the MQMs above the tier will carry over, but I still either need the spend or the waiver. Is that right?

Duke787

That is correct. It’s really very generous if you have a big year and you can set yourself up for maintaining Gold / Plat with as long as you hit the waiver

MSPeconomist

You'll start 2023 with the approximately 22K MQM from the SIN trip plus any "extra" MQMs you had when you achieved Silver before the SIN trip (plus MQMs from any other SkyTeam travel after hitting Silver.) And yes, you need either the MQD waiver based on AmEx spend ($25,000 for all status tiers except DM) or MQD requirement unless you have a foreign address.

Goodoldflyer

I remember my first skylime...


Sorry, couldn't resist.

beachmouse

Yeah. I’m never going to hit the spend requirements for Diamond and because of assorted Covid- era promotions, I’ve got enough rollover miles that I’m now working on MQMs to keep Platinum status for 2025.

Adelphos

OP - have you thought about adding another 3K miles this year for Gold?

Zorak

Have limes even returned to in-flight catering yet? ISTR there were posts in the service thread about how there weren't any...

Monoboy

put the skylime in the coconut and drank it all up.

Goodoldflyer

BYOL