Worth pursuing Diamond status?

Old Sep 12, 2022, 11:19 am
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I have no problem with the card spend of $25k next year. That's pretty easy since I run all my expenses through the Amex DL.

Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
If I were you I would shoot for 2 years of PM over 1 year of DM. So you need to strive for 150,000 MQMs by 12/31/23 (DL will deduct 75,000 MQMs on 1/1/23) and spend the $25,000 on the DL Amex in calendar 2023.

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Old Sep 12, 2022, 11:20 am
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How are you going to set yourself up to make sure you have PM for 2024?

Originally Posted by DLHubber
100% agree with this. I’m in the same situation (much closer on MQMs and MQDs, but it would still require a bit of work) and I thought about shooting for DM, but there’s almost no way I’d get back to PM for 2024. Staying at PM for 2023 will make it basically a lock for me in 2024, so that’s what I’m doing.

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Old Sep 12, 2022, 11:21 am
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So it sounds like it'd be better to just rack up as much as possible and stay in the PM status level? I'm actually quite happy with it. DM would be awesome but not at the cost of dropping down to zero status.
What's the best set of numbers to achieve that?
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 11:41 am
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So it sounds like I shouldn't have taken a miles reward flight for the end of the month and just paid full boat? Is there some way that having PM status or the Amex DL card gives us rollover miles, then?
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 11:53 am
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Your award flight will earn MQMs, MQSs, and MQDs. You'll get rollover of MQMs above 75,000. [If you had paid for the ticket with money rather than miles, the only difference is that it would earn RDMs too, IIRC at 9 per dollar.]
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 12:54 pm
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Sorry, what's FO status?
FO is the abbreviation used for Silver Medallion status: What is an FO?
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by alin314

So it sounds like I shouldn't have taken a miles reward flight for the end of the month and just paid full boat? Is there some way that having PM status or the Amex DL card gives us rollover miles, then?
Having earned status (any level) entitles you to MQM rollover. The $25K Amex spend just negates the MQD requirements for Silver, Gold, or Platinum status (but not Diamond) and you only have to worry about MQM earn to qualify.
The MQM rollover amount will based on whatever status level you attain. By earning Platinum (greater that 75K MQM Balance + Amex $25K spend MQD waiver), you'll rollover any MQM's over 75K balance into next year (currently, 16,219 MQMs). You currently have earned Plat status through Jan 31, 2024. In order to keep it through 2024, you need to end next year with at least a 75K MQM balance and spend at least another $25K on Amex card. If you end next year with less than 75K MQM, but more than 50K MQM, you will be Gold for 2024 and rollover any MQM in excess of 50K MQM (assuming you hit the $25K Amex spend MQD waiver next year).
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by alin314
So it sounds like it'd be better to just rack up as much as possible and stay in the PM status level? I'm actually quite happy with it. DM would be awesome but not at the cost of dropping down to zero status.
What's the best set of numbers to achieve that?
Just as many MQM as possible, without ever doing $15k MQD or spending $250k on a DL Platinum/Reserve card. Any excess MQM rollover to the next year, so just always maximize your MQM. Thankfully award bookings made through DL on DL planes earn MQM now too.
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by alin314
How are you going to set yourself up to make sure you have PM for 2024?
By having enough rolled-over MQMs plus card spend bonuses to make sure hitting 75k next year is easily within reach. If I hit DM, it would be just barely so Id have very few MQMs rolled over.

I created a spreadsheet to keep track of MQMs and help with decisions like this.
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Old Sep 12, 2022, 3:03 pm
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A lot of people will have this decision. You need to base it on:

1) Estimated MQM earned via flying in 2023
2) Estimated MQM earned via Amex (I assume most people making these decisions are spending either $25K on a Delta Platinum or $30K on a Delta Reserve)
3) How much you can rollover into 2023

If you can earn 50K in flying annually, I think going for Diamond makes this year makes sense - you start off with at least 65K in MQM, with the ability to plan MQM runs or whatever as the year ends. But you have to be realistic with annual earned flight MQMs - only include work travel and an average year of personal travel.

I'm at 145K MQM, with about 30K or more MQM coming, so going for Diamond makes sense
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Old Sep 13, 2022, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Your award flight will earn MQMs, MQSs, and MQDs. You'll get rollover of MQMs above 75,000. [If you had paid for the ticket with money rather than miles, the only difference is that it would earn RDMs too, IIRC at 9 per dollar.]
With award tickets you get MQD credit for taxes and fees, which you don't get when paying with "real" $.
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Old Sep 13, 2022, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by nrr
With award tickets you get MQD credit for taxes and fees, which you don't get when paying with "real" $.
You sure? Last 2 award tickets I booked the only MQD I got was the number of miles redeemed divided by 100, am I owed an adjustment?
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Old Sep 13, 2022, 12:11 pm
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For DL award tickets, MQD = miles/100.
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Old Sep 13, 2022, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerfirsts
You sure? Last 2 award tickets I booked the only MQD I got was the number of miles redeemed divided by 100, am I owed an adjustment?
I transacted an award ticket using 215,000 miles, on the day I made my redemption the $ price was approx. $2,150; for the award ticket I'll earn $2,150 MQDs (215,000/10), had I paid in $ I would get less than $2,150 (the fees and taxes wouldn't earn any MQDs).
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Old Sep 13, 2022, 12:34 pm
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Follow-up to post #29, I was separately billed $59.17 for taxes and fees (I just rechecked my receipt), but I believe I came out ahead MQD-wise for revenue vs award; I tried reproducing the itn I did purchase, but PS class availability is no longer available.
(The revenue pricing was only from my recollection.)
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