Delta/Boeing 737-MAX Plane Transaction Thread (Consolidated)
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The MAX is notorious, but I wonder how many people will refuse to fly on the MAX 10 (if operated by DL) versus the ones that will accept it if the fare is cheaper or the schedule better. I also wonder whether employers can force employees to fly the MAX 10 for business travel. [A previous employer had a policy of not insisting on a particular airline due to liability concerns.]
https://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/Do.../DTA_App_K.pdf
If I see a 737 MAX pop up on any of my bookings and decline to fly it and submit that as a reason, I'll report back on whether it worked.
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Deal could be announced in the next month for up to 100 MAX 10s
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2022-03-18/
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2022-03-18/
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This would certainly be unfortunately if DL decides to get on the MAX wagon. And, shame on Boeing for trying to shove certification through and the FAA regulators for even considering a fast track. Talk about repeating the same crap from the original MAX certification...
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What aircraft would these replace, has that been determined? The 321neos are set to replace the 752s if I'm not mistaken so I'm not sure what the MAX 10s would do? Unless it's more upgauging of the fleet, which seems quite common lately.
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That's not really how fleet management works. DL decides what network they would like to operate, and then they try to build a fleet optimized to serve that network. So a better question is what routes would these planes operate, rather than what planes will these replace.
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Same old Boeing bashing here without understanding the issues.
It's not the intent of FAA regulations to tell you what to do. It's up to the manufacturer to meet the intent by means acceptable to the regulator. That's the only way that the industry can be advanced while still maintaining safety of flight as good as or better than earlier safe designs
The specs so far appear to address this and as such were approved by the FAA.
However if you feel different than vote with your feet if you can find better
It's not the intent of FAA regulations to tell you what to do. It's up to the manufacturer to meet the intent by means acceptable to the regulator. That's the only way that the industry can be advanced while still maintaining safety of flight as good as or better than earlier safe designs
The specs so far appear to address this and as such were approved by the FAA.
However if you feel different than vote with your feet if you can find better
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That's not really how fleet management works. DL decides what network they would like to operate, and then they try to build a fleet optimized to serve that network. So a better question is what routes would these planes operate, rather than what planes will these replace.
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Same old Boeing bashing here without understanding the issues.
It's not the intent of FAA regulations to tell you what to do. It's up to the manufacturer to meet the intent by means acceptable to the regulator. That's the only way that the industry can be advanced while still maintaining safety of flight as good as or better than earlier safe designs
The specs so far appear to address this and as such were approved by the FAA.
It's not the intent of FAA regulations to tell you what to do. It's up to the manufacturer to meet the intent by means acceptable to the regulator. That's the only way that the industry can be advanced while still maintaining safety of flight as good as or better than earlier safe designs
The specs so far appear to address this and as such were approved by the FAA.
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Up 1.5% on a generally bullish day across the board.
Over the last 8 years DL stock has been dead money.
All it does is fly round trips between $20 and $60.
Before being the "we keep the middle seat open longer than anyone else" airline in the pandemic, DL was the "we don't fly the MAX" airline a year prior.
Over the last 8 years DL stock has been dead money.
All it does is fly round trips between $20 and $60.
Before being the "we keep the middle seat open longer than anyone else" airline in the pandemic, DL was the "we don't fly the MAX" airline a year prior.
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This one is going to sting. Boeing has no near term delivery slots and CFM isn't going to give Tech Ops an engine contract. And Boeing has no incentive to move heaven and earth for Delta. Airbus knows this and will sell more 321neo at an eye watering price. Karma always comes back and makes things right. Delta cried wolf too many times and now they're going to get fleeced.
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That's an odd claim. Are AA, UA, AS, and WN flying around empty 7M8 and 7M9?
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I hope this doesn't happen. The existing 737s aren't as comfortable as the Airbus narrowbodies, and since the "max" name basically refers to profits above all (comfort or safety), I'm afraid DL will max out the capacity like AA did. Sorry for the puns in there, I overdid it for emphasis.
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Personally, I hope this never happens as I have no desire to fly on any MAX. I don’t understand why Delta would want the MAX 10 as it is of similar size, seating capacity, to the A321. One would think that Delta would be in the market to find a suitable replacement for the B738 and A320’s that are both the oldest single isle aircraft in their fleet, a aircraft in the 160 seat category.