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Jun 28, 2022, 11:02 am
#16
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Earlier this year I had a flight at PDX, a DL "focus city where they are the largest carrier, delayed 12 hours because they had to drive a mechanic and a part from SEA to PDX. "We don't have any mechanics on duty some weekends who are certified for this aircraft" is what we were told at the gate.
I also had this same issue on an AS flight from MSO once -- no mechanic available so the plane ended up going out empty to PDX and they sent all the pax to SEA instead on a different flight.
I also had this same issue on an AS flight from MSO once -- no mechanic available so the plane ended up going out empty to PDX and they sent all the pax to SEA instead on a different flight.
DL has a once-daily to AMS, and the nonstop HND flight has been on hold since sometime in 2020 as far as I can tell. So, apart from having a small Sky Club that seems to be left over from the Pre-Merger NW days, so I am not sure where you are seeing "focus city" attributes?
Jun 28, 2022, 5:08 pm
#17
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Wait - DL is the largest carrier at PDX???? Based on what metric??? I fly DL out of there almost every week, and they generally have way better options than UA or AA, for example, but looking at departures by airline, Alaska has more than 3x as many flights as Delta (77 vs 25). Even Southwest has 24 departures in the same period.
DL has a once-daily to AMS, and the nonstop HND flight has been on hold since sometime in 2020 as far as I can tell. So, apart from having a small Sky Club that seems to be left over from the Pre-Merger NW days, so I am not sure where you are seeing "focus city" attributes?
DL has a once-daily to AMS, and the nonstop HND flight has been on hold since sometime in 2020 as far as I can tell. So, apart from having a small Sky Club that seems to be left over from the Pre-Merger NW days, so I am not sure where you are seeing "focus city" attributes?
Jun 28, 2022, 5:12 pm
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Jun 28, 2022, 5:45 pm
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Jun 28, 2022, 7:17 pm
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Just thought I'd share an interesting anecdote that I haven't run into before. Trying to fly out of MSO today and the pilot announced we needed a quick inspection from a mechanic. Apparently on Saturdays there isn't a mechanic at the MSO airport so one is driving in from an hour away. They were called before boarding so hopefully not too much of a delay into MSP
Well, very unfortunately this A&P was in a bad car accident and out of commission for like 9 months. We would road trip company mechanics (who were in-house) from next nearest MX base which was my city. This got expensive, constantly having a couple guys on TDY up there. So, the airline established a MX base with like 5 technicians and a van full of parts at Latrobe.
Jun 28, 2022, 7:36 pm
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Yes it did. Delta was awarded a HND slot for PDX, daily 332, in 2020. I don't know if PDX-HND started or if PDX-TYO (would have been NRT) was suspended due to COVID before it could start.
Delta's HND slots are 1x daily each to ATL, MSP, DTW, LAX, SEA, PDX and HNL. ATL/MSP/DTW/LAX are 350s (or will be when they re-start), SEA is 339, PDX is 332 and HNL is 763.
I suspect if/when Delta is able to request more HND slots SEA/DTW/LAX will be looked at to go double daily with maybe a wild card of giving JFK-TYO a what seems like 15th try between DL and NW.
They aren't the largest carrier out of PDX but they are the largest "global" carrier, or at least they were pre-COVID. Granted American was quite close in market share but Delta was a tad larger.
AMS/ATL/DTW/MSP/SEA/LAX/JFK/SLC/ICN/HND and then pre-COVID they were operating LHR and IIRC still running PDX-HNL. No idea if/when PDX-LHR or HNL will come back. The only hub without PDX serve is Boston currently (excluding LGA for obvious reasons)
(note PDX-ICN/HND currently scheduled to start in September and October respectively)
Delta's HND slots are 1x daily each to ATL, MSP, DTW, LAX, SEA, PDX and HNL. ATL/MSP/DTW/LAX are 350s (or will be when they re-start), SEA is 339, PDX is 332 and HNL is 763.
I suspect if/when Delta is able to request more HND slots SEA/DTW/LAX will be looked at to go double daily with maybe a wild card of giving JFK-TYO a what seems like 15th try between DL and NW.
Wait - DL is the largest carrier at PDX???? Based on what metric??? I fly DL out of there almost every week, and they generally have way better options than UA or AA, for example, but looking at departures by airline, Alaska has more than 3x as many flights as Delta (77 vs 25). Even Southwest has 24 departures in the same period.
DL has a once-daily to AMS, and the nonstop HND flight has been on hold since sometime in 2020 as far as I can tell. So, apart from having a small Sky Club that seems to be left over from the Pre-Merger NW days, so I am not sure where you are seeing "focus city" attributes?
DL has a once-daily to AMS, and the nonstop HND flight has been on hold since sometime in 2020 as far as I can tell. So, apart from having a small Sky Club that seems to be left over from the Pre-Merger NW days, so I am not sure where you are seeing "focus city" attributes?
AMS/ATL/DTW/MSP/SEA/LAX/JFK/SLC/ICN/HND and then pre-COVID they were operating LHR and IIRC still running PDX-HNL. No idea if/when PDX-LHR or HNL will come back. The only hub without PDX serve is Boston currently (excluding LGA for obvious reasons)
(note PDX-ICN/HND currently scheduled to start in September and October respectively)
Jun 28, 2022, 9:17 pm
#23
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Yes it did. Delta was awarded a HND slot for PDX, daily 332, in 2020. I don't know if PDX-HND started or if PDX-TYO (would have been NRT) was suspended due to COVID before it could start.
Delta's HND slots are 1x daily each to ATL, MSP, DTW, LAX, SEA, PDX and HNL. ATL/MSP/DTW/LAX are 350s (or will be when they re-start), SEA is 339, PDX is 332 and HNL is 763.
I suspect if/when Delta is able to request more HND slots SEA/DTW/LAX will be looked at to go double daily with maybe a wild card of giving JFK-TYO a what seems like 15th try between DL and NW.
They aren't the largest carrier out of PDX but they are the largest "global" carrier, or at least they were pre-COVID. Granted American was quite close in market share but Delta was a tad larger.
AMS/ATL/DTW/MSP/SEA/LAX/JFK/SLC/ICN/HND and then pre-COVID they were operating LHR and IIRC still running PDX-HNL. No idea if/when PDX-LHR or HNL will come back. The only hub without PDX serve is Boston currently (excluding LGA for obvious reasons)
(note PDX-ICN/HND currently scheduled to start in September and October respectively)
Delta's HND slots are 1x daily each to ATL, MSP, DTW, LAX, SEA, PDX and HNL. ATL/MSP/DTW/LAX are 350s (or will be when they re-start), SEA is 339, PDX is 332 and HNL is 763.
I suspect if/when Delta is able to request more HND slots SEA/DTW/LAX will be looked at to go double daily with maybe a wild card of giving JFK-TYO a what seems like 15th try between DL and NW.
They aren't the largest carrier out of PDX but they are the largest "global" carrier, or at least they were pre-COVID. Granted American was quite close in market share but Delta was a tad larger.
AMS/ATL/DTW/MSP/SEA/LAX/JFK/SLC/ICN/HND and then pre-COVID they were operating LHR and IIRC still running PDX-HNL. No idea if/when PDX-LHR or HNL will come back. The only hub without PDX serve is Boston currently (excluding LGA for obvious reasons)
(note PDX-ICN/HND currently scheduled to start in September and October respectively)
Jun 28, 2022, 9:19 pm
#24
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Ah okay. PDX-HNL has come and gone some many times between DL and NW its nearly impossible to keep up.
Jun 29, 2022, 5:47 am
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Yes it did. Delta was awarded a HND slot for PDX, daily 332, in 2020. I don't know if PDX-HND started or if PDX-TYO (would have been NRT) was suspended due to COVID before it could start.
Delta's HND slots are 1x daily each to ATL, MSP, DTW, LAX, SEA, PDX and HNL. ATL/MSP/DTW/LAX are 350s (or will be when they re-start), SEA is 339, PDX is 332 and HNL is 763.
I suspect if/when Delta is able to request more HND slots SEA/DTW/LAX will be looked at to go double daily with maybe a wild card of giving JFK-TYO a what seems like 15th try between DL and NW.
They aren't the largest carrier out of PDX but they are the largest "global" carrier, or at least they were pre-COVID. Granted American was quite close in market share but Delta was a tad larger.
AMS/ATL/DTW/MSP/SEA/LAX/JFK/SLC/ICN/HND and then pre-COVID they were operating LHR and IIRC still running PDX-HNL. No idea if/when PDX-LHR or HNL will come back. The only hub without PDX serve is Boston currently (excluding LGA for obvious reasons)
(note PDX-ICN/HND currently scheduled to start in September and October respectively)
Delta's HND slots are 1x daily each to ATL, MSP, DTW, LAX, SEA, PDX and HNL. ATL/MSP/DTW/LAX are 350s (or will be when they re-start), SEA is 339, PDX is 332 and HNL is 763.
I suspect if/when Delta is able to request more HND slots SEA/DTW/LAX will be looked at to go double daily with maybe a wild card of giving JFK-TYO a what seems like 15th try between DL and NW.
They aren't the largest carrier out of PDX but they are the largest "global" carrier, or at least they were pre-COVID. Granted American was quite close in market share but Delta was a tad larger.
AMS/ATL/DTW/MSP/SEA/LAX/JFK/SLC/ICN/HND and then pre-COVID they were operating LHR and IIRC still running PDX-HNL. No idea if/when PDX-LHR or HNL will come back. The only hub without PDX serve is Boston currently (excluding LGA for obvious reasons)
(note PDX-ICN/HND currently scheduled to start in September and October respectively)
JFK is unlikely. There's just too much competition from *A (NH/UA) and OW (JL/AA).
Jun 29, 2022, 7:38 am
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Jun 29, 2022, 10:55 am
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DL had PDX-NRT nonstop until covid. Rumor was that the route was for Nike and DL possibly received subsidies from the state and local govs and even Nike as well (in addition to buying a lot of seats). I took that route once (maybe twice? as recently as 2019) because it was so much cheaper than other options. Flights were always sparsely filled and it could not survive without subsidies. As someone else mentioned DL was awarded a PDX-HND slot but that is on hold until travel to Japan recovers.