Canada / Same-day confirmed/standby
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SIN
Programs: UA Platinum, DL Platinum, AFKL Gold, Qatar Gold
Posts: 895
Canada / Same-day confirmed/standby
Hello,
Has anyone tried to standby for a same day flight on a transborder Canada-US flight?
Information on this page gives different rules whether it is confirmed or standby. Basically, confirmed is available for Canada and excludes international flights. Standby also excludes international flights, but Canada is not specifically included as being an option. Sounds a bit confusing.
https://www.delta.com/us/en/change-cancel/same-day-flight-change
same day confirmed:
"You can use the Same-Day Confirmed option for travel within the United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection® flights. It is not available for international flights."
same day standby
"You can use the Same-Day Standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights. It is not available for international flights"
Thanks
Has anyone tried to standby for a same day flight on a transborder Canada-US flight?
Information on this page gives different rules whether it is confirmed or standby. Basically, confirmed is available for Canada and excludes international flights. Standby also excludes international flights, but Canada is not specifically included as being an option. Sounds a bit confusing.
https://www.delta.com/us/en/change-cancel/same-day-flight-change
same day confirmed:
"You can use the Same-Day Confirmed option for travel within the United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection® flights. It is not available for international flights."
same day standby
"You can use the Same-Day Standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights. It is not available for international flights"
Thanks
#2
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 785
So the two airports I fly into the most you clear immigrations for the us in Canada and therefore they won’t let you standby, but if you can be confirmed prior to going thru us immigrations in Canada you can change. Others might know more but this has been my experience
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,040
Canada they exclude mainly because of bags. Unlike domestic, bags must fly with passenger on international. Adding to this, coming back you clear customs in Canada. Under US CBP rules you technically not in US till touchdown. (They can cancel preclearance anytime) Also an employee must deal with clearing your bags if they get seperated from you. Not necessarily huge inconvenience but its one more manual step.
Domestoc standby works great since bags can be voluntarily separated.
Domestoc standby works great since bags can be voluntarily separated.
#4
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,369
This is another example of DL defining "international" differently for different purposes.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta
Programs: Delta Death March, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat, Marriott/Hilton Gold Life
Posts: 1,543
Canada they exclude mainly because of bags. Unlike domestic, bags must fly with passenger on international. Adding to this, coming back you clear customs in Canada. Under US CBP rules you technically not in US till touchdown. (They can cancel preclearance anytime) Also an employee must deal with clearing your bags if they get seperated from you. Not necessarily huge inconvenience but its one more manual step.
Domestoc standby works great since bags can be voluntarily separated.
Domestoc standby works great since bags can be voluntarily separated.
So in summary - no same-day confirmed for CAN.
#7
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,369
#8
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Delta DM, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, National EE, AS MVP Gold 75K, AC 75K
Posts: 996
I've done same day change (not standby before) from YYZ before going to the US, both on the app and at the counter. This was done pre-pandemic. Nowadays, I just get an error trying to check-in or change a flight and have to go to the airport instead to check-in.
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,040
I ended up with no bags for three days when DL messed my bags up do to this. They asked for volunteers. I offered, they rebooked me right away (they knew they were well over and the next gate had flight departing before the one I was supposed to take). Gave me new BP and thought nothing of it. In air I checked on bags and saw they had been offloaded from original flight. It was then I learned they had to reclear my bags with CBP even though had already done that.
#10
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta
Programs: Delta Death March, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat, Marriott/Hilton Gold Life
Posts: 1,543
I should clarify my statement above - when I had a medical emergency (2018), Delta changed my flight at no cost - next one out of YUL - but that wasn't same day confirmed... and I had no bags.
#11
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta
Programs: Delta Death March, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat, Marriott/Hilton Gold Life
Posts: 1,543
I ended up with no bags for three days when DL messed my bags up do to this. They asked for volunteers. I offered, they rebooked me right away (they knew they were well over and the next gate had flight departing before the one I was supposed to take). Gave me new BP and thought nothing of it. In air I checked on bags and saw they had been offloaded from original flight. It was then I learned they had to reclear my bags with CBP even though had already done that.
But that was in the USA, not Canada (as discussed here, CBP pre-clears in Canada, but USA can "rescind" it if something isn't 100% correct - I once saw a guy pulled aside at a USA Jetway on arrival from Canada).
#13
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,369
There shouldn't be a fee or fare difference for SDC. This sounds like an ordinary change.
#14
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 38
#15
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,040
Also when SDC if on a main cabin fare,, it'll sometimes offer SDC by upfaring to the lowest available fare class. (When yours isn't available)