DL continues to weaken operationally (Summer 2022 Meltdown)
Jun 23, 2022, 5:40 am
#271
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I flew KLM earlier in the week.
First flight delayed because plane was late and was refueling. Delayed 45 minutes waiting for a new time slot for departure. Then, ground crew wasn't ready at flight time, so delayed another 45 minutes. This was at FRA.
Was going to miss connection. Luckily, the connection at AMS was also delayed for an hour. So it all worked out, just one hour late for arrival.
All of these problems were beyond the airline's control.
I'm just saying, things are tough all over for flying these days.
First flight delayed because plane was late and was refueling. Delayed 45 minutes waiting for a new time slot for departure. Then, ground crew wasn't ready at flight time, so delayed another 45 minutes. This was at FRA.
Was going to miss connection. Luckily, the connection at AMS was also delayed for an hour. So it all worked out, just one hour late for arrival.
All of these problems were beyond the airline's control.
I'm just saying, things are tough all over for flying these days.
Jun 23, 2022, 5:47 am
#272
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Jun 23, 2022, 6:21 am
#274
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Wow, you're not kidding. https://nasstatus.faa.gov/
Ground stop for: BOS, BWI, DCA, EWR, IAD, JFK, LGA, PHL, YYZ.
Ground stop for: BOS, BWI, DCA, EWR, IAD, JFK, LGA, PHL, YYZ.
Summer afternoon thunderstorms....airlines can't do anything to avoid these.
Jun 23, 2022, 6:57 am
#275
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Jun 23, 2022, 7:41 am
#276
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Well BOS was a mess yesterday again (Wed) - fortunately my flight managed to arrive on time... but the big status board in the terminal looked like a christmas tree with a big mix of green, yellow delays, and red cancels. Anything to/from LGA seemed to be a lost cause, with other random cancels throughout the country.
For my flight that was canceled last Fri I received an canned apology email that they seem to send out regularly, and then 10k miles. I still plan on writing in to DL about the various issues, agents that were not capable of rebooking, and downgrade comp.
For my flight that was canceled last Fri I received an canned apology email that they seem to send out regularly, and then 10k miles. I still plan on writing in to DL about the various issues, agents that were not capable of rebooking, and downgrade comp.
Jun 23, 2022, 8:21 am
#278
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The perfesser pointed out that we had a surplus of pilots on the outbound ATL-VPS including a jump seater so hypothesis was that the outbound pilots were about to time out and they needed a fresh pair for the return. Sorry y’all for jogging extra pilots on that flight.
Delta is trying but they just cut way too deep in 2020 and summer will continue to be a hot mess. I think it take the usual fall reduction in leisure travel to get things back in track.
Jun 23, 2022, 8:34 am
#279
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Jun 23, 2022, 9:02 am
#280
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Jun 23, 2022, 9:12 am
#281
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While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.
Jun 23, 2022, 9:18 am
#282
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Impossible to know whether load factors mean many traveling a few times or few people traveling many times. I'd venture that it's somewhere in the middle. Given status extensions, rollover, etc, I'd expect Diamond and Platinum to be smaller next year than this year. Whether they plummet is hard to say.
While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.
While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.
Jun 23, 2022, 9:26 am
#283
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I'd guess DLAS's point was that increased fares make it easier for people to make MQD requirements - which makes sense to me. Conversely, this will likely also effect demand and people will fly less - especially if we're actually headed for a recession
Jun 23, 2022, 9:27 am
#284
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Impossible to know whether load factors mean many traveling a few times or few people traveling many times. I'd venture that it's somewhere in the middle. Given status extensions, rollover, etc, I'd expect Diamond and Platinum to be smaller next year than this year. Whether they plummet is hard to say.
While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.
While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.
Jun 23, 2022, 9:35 am
#285
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Impossible to know whether load factors mean many traveling a few times or few people traveling many times. I'd venture that it's somewhere in the middle. Given status extensions, rollover, etc, I'd expect Diamond and Platinum to be smaller next year than this year. Whether they plummet is hard to say.
While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.
While certainly anecdotal, I know of quite a few people who got status because of general rollover who normally wouldn't and will lose that status next year.