MSPeconomist

DL says that its D1 passengers are most loyal. Are you suggesting that DL says things that it does not think are true?

Internationally, there generally isn't lounge access upon arrival unless there's a separate arrivals lounge (the one at CDG still seems to be closed and LHR had something preCOVID-19 too, but IIRC these were restricted to those with a TATL business class ticket). International airlines are generally emphatic that their lounges are departures (and connections) lounges, but this tends not to matter since arriving passengers are segregated from departing passengers and therefore cannot get to the door of these departures lounges. At least one alliance (not SkyTeam) bases lounge access on the cabin class of the segment departing from that airport for nonelites, so that a nonelite passtnger ticketed in domestic FC connecting to TATL/TPAC in business class or IFC would be eligible to use the lounge *only* at the connecting airport, immediately before the TATL/TPAC segment (and not at the departure airport before the domestic FC segment).

buckeye91

For those referring to Sky Clubs as quiet, clean and calm as reasons to visit upon arrival….can you please be specific as to which Sky Club you are referring to as I have never seen a Sky Club that fits this description?

I mean, come on. Use an airport restroom if you really need to go…
Is that free cup of coffee really the tipping point for you?
Is the free snack upon arrival critical to your performance?
You can change clothes in an airport bathroom as well as a Sky Club restroom, I’ve done it, so can you (although I realize the shower situation for some)

To each his own, but I fly internationally often. I never schedule a flight where I have to go directly to a client location. I either come on the day before or ensure I have an early check in at my hotel…prefer to not use public showers

Those that can will have to adjust

Here’s hoping there are more changes to reduce overcrowding in the Sky Clubs. As one posted above, I see a lot of over endulging both with drinks and food and extended families hanging out getting loaded on both food and drink

I find sitting in the terminal or at a decent restaurant/bar in the terminal (if you can find one) more calm and quiet than the Sky Barn. The SC buffet resembles a Golden Corral more than a great benefit we should have.

Goodoldflyer

I had to double check the name to make sure I didn't write this...

nrr

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flyerCO

Imagine them suing (as others have because you booked a flight knowing wouldn't fly, costing them a last minute $1000 ticket? I can easily imagine that. Just because DL let's you cancel doesn't change fact you had no intention of flying..

Airlines know of this scam (for lounge access), and have sued before over it.

Goodoldflyer

Which part is unfair? That you can get direct flights to where you're going? I think most people would trade skyclub access during connections for that.

You can still show up three hours in advance of your flight. It just becomes no longer a "grab some free food on the way home/to the meeting/to the hotel" stop. I can imagine some folks got a pretty good deal on that alone.

Don't you want the club to be less crowded? If you have to wait in line to get in, is it really worth the effort on arrival?

I'll refer back to a post I made earlier: someone's access was going to get cut. Would you prefer everyone pay a small entrance fee of say, $10? or would you prefer nobody be allowed to bring guests? Or this?

While sure, it's nice to have a place to chill when you get back, there's also an argument that it's not terrible to get away from the circus.

OhDoctor

Recently flew HNL-MSP on DL, then MSP-LGA on AA. 6 hour layover -- literally spent the entire 6 hours, on arrival, sitting in the SC!

nrr

The SC bathrooms have "closed" toilet rooms, much nicer for changing clothes.

deltalirious

The fact remains that this is an unacceptable restriction (especially when applied to Lifetime Club members) which will most likely have negligible impact on the crowding situation.
It's pretty clear that Delta is choosing AMEX and the associated revenue over loyal flyers who patronize their airline. Restricting guests e.g., business associates, families (including children and pets) and friends who have filled the Clubs to capacity, would make much more sense. If there is anyway to make our opinions know to anyone in authority at the airline, I'd love to have the opportunity to do so.

GUWonder

Perhaps this DL lounge policy change will get some people to book onward DL segments from a US port of entry and use the onward boarding pass/ticket segment(s) as part of throw-away ticketing to get lounge access on arrival at the DL hub being used as a US port of entry.

Yes, and one alternative used to have more room to change clothes can crowd out others (who really shouldn't be crowded out) -- that alternative being the "family"/"handicapped" bathrooms at airports.

fromYXU

I am quickly realizing that this will not affect me at all except open a few more spots in the SC. I think that DL knows that most users will be affected minimally.

puntamita

Let Diamond status members use a choice benefit to have sky club access whenever they want. Better than a $200 voucher. Bummer when have to check out of hotel(even when have late checkout) and flight is late.

shoodawg

I think DL knows what the % reduction in guests will be by club, day/hour.

MichaelKade

I think that removing arrivals may have an impact on % of entries, but surely not % of total time spent. I stop routinely on arrival to use the restroom as others have stated, but am always in/out <10 mins.

shoodawg

They didn’t go far enough. They should’ve made it 90 mins prior to departure.