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DL.com says upgrade space available, agent says no?

Old May 2, 22, 7:04 pm
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DL.com says upgrade space available, agent says no?

I booked SEA-MSP-AMS June 8th (DL 1620 , DL 164) using I believe K class and 65,000 miles. DL.com shows GUC upgrade space to First and D1 available. Agent was only able to clear into D1. F class on SEA-MSP is now showing as $700-ish or additional 70,000-ish miles.

Should the F space have cleared as well since it showed available on DL.com? I don't really want to spend double miles for the outbound to clear in F..
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Old May 2, 22, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by pulpfiction78
I booked SEA-MSP-AMS June 8th (DL 1620 , DL 164) using I believe K class and 65,000 miles. DL.com shows GUC upgrade space to First and D1 available. Agent was only able to clear into D1. F class on SEA-MSP is now showing as $700-ish or additional 70,000-ish miles.

Should the F space have cleared as well since it showed available on DL.com? I don't really want to spend double miles for the outbound to clear in F..
So you bought PS and immediately cleared into D1 on the MSP-AMS leg? I think under the new rules you are entitled to last seat availability in domestic F when using a GUC. So if there's one open seat for sale on SEA-MSP in F, it should be yours. HUCA.
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Old May 2, 22, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Billy Mumphrey
So you bought PS and immediately cleared into D1 on the MSP-AMS leg? I think under the new rules you are entitled to last seat availability in domestic F when using a GUC. So if there's one open seat for sale on SEA-MSP in F, it should be yours. HUCA.
No, what I did was find available upgrade space on dl.com and asked for mileage upgrade (65k each way at lowest ticket class available). Upgrade space showed available on all 4 legs but agent could only clear 3.

Previous threads suggest that dl.com upgrade availability should apply to both GUC and mileage upgrade.
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Old May 2, 22, 9:31 pm
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What was surprising to me was that both D1 legs cleared right away. It was one of the two domestic F legs that didn't clear even though it still advertises as available.
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Old May 2, 22, 9:58 pm
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Mileage upgrades have been eliminated on purely domestic itineraries; if that also means they're not available even for domestic connections that are part of an international itinerary, then your experience would make sense. But I am just musing out loud, don't have any actual info...
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Old May 2, 22, 10:37 pm
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This is cute. An agent responded over text. That assurance must be solid!!

"Hi xxxx, upon checking here for the Gold Medallion member the clearing time for the first class seats will be 72 hours before the departure date. No worries as upon checking on the reservation, I assure that XXXX will be flying first class."
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Old May 2, 22, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by pulpfiction78
This is cute. An agent responded over text. That assurance must be solid!!

"Hi xxxx, upon checking here for the Gold Medallion member the clearing time for the first class seats will be 72 hours before the departure date. No worries as upon checking on the reservation, I assure that XXXX will be flying first class."
Text agent support has fallen greatly. They used to be the way to go. They knew policies and how to fix things
Nowadays, not so much.
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Old May 3, 22, 12:53 am
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How did you clear into D1 before T-24 for the international leg? I thought the new GUC rules prevented this?
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Old May 3, 22, 3:20 am
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How did you clear into D1 before T-24 for the international leg? I thought the new GUC rules prevented this?
No. Only Y->D1 isn't allowed and only if there's a PE cabin. If no PE cabin or buy PE you can upgrade directly before T-24.
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Originally Posted by chronicrelief
How did you clear into D1 before T-24 for the international leg? I thought the new GUC rules prevented this?
OP used a mileage upgrade award, not a GUC.
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Old May 3, 22, 2:27 pm
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Waited on hold for an hour today while the agent tried to escalate. Response continues to be: no upgrade. "No fare class available for upgrade"

My only guess is that in between me seeing the F availability and the agent making the booking, the agent missed F not being available even while telling me it was.

F upgrade SEA-MSP right now is $900 or 90,000 miles. Geeeez.

Is it perhaps interesting that the 65k upgrade cleared to D1 Suite from K class? In other words bypassing PS.
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Old May 3, 22, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by pulpfiction78
No, what I did was find available upgrade space on dl.com and asked for mileage upgrade (65k each way at lowest ticket class available).
How do Mileage Upgrades like this work? What base fare class is needed for a 65,000 mile D1 upgrade? And how to you ask an agent to confirm this?
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Old May 3, 22, 3:01 pm
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AFAIK there are mileage upgrade awards from PS to D1 and also mileage upgrade awards, for more miles, from certain (not deep discount) coach fares from coach to D1. IIRC K is the lowest coach fare that can be upgraded this way.
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Is this referenced on DL.com anywhere? Don't see it referenced here: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...rades-and-more. the "MUA" I'm used to seeing - the one where you just select on the seat map - does not apply to multiple segments or legs, just a single flight.
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Old May 3, 22, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by chronicrelief
Is this referenced on DL.com anywhere? Don't see it referenced here: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...rades-and-more. the "MUA" I'm used to seeing - the one where you just select on the seat map - does not apply to multiple segments or legs, just a single flight.
NO. You do not select a Mileage Upgrade Award on the seat map. You must call DL and Mileage Upgrade Awards require fixed (and round) numbers of miles, depending on your fare class and TATL vs TPAC.
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