DL.com says upgrade space available, agent says no?
#16
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Before I called in I used DL.com to find routes with advertised GUC space.
#17
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"Fun" recap of the outgoing journey from this booking...
- Itinerary had 2 identical routes SEA-MSP , I believe this is normal for upgrades
- Check-in prior resulted in error, "We're sorry. We can't validate your ticket. Please contact your local reservation office for assistance"
- SMS Agent tries a few things ("try again"). Nothing changes; says to go to airport.
- Check-in agent argues with PAX about covid paperwork (would not accept 2 doses + official covid recovery 60 days ago). Redcoat needs to be called in to allow check-in.
- Okay, now successfully checked in. Is PAX anywhere to be found on upgrade list? Of course not. Remember, Delta promised upgrade LOL.
- New SMS Agent. Agent escalates. Escalation agent finds some official notice that upgrades need to be requested 3hrs prior. Itinerary has noted "Upgrade waitlisted" for weeks.
For a last bit of even more fun. MSP-AMS cancelled last minute. Rebooked on a flight 20 hours later. Finally in the air now.
- Itinerary had 2 identical routes SEA-MSP , I believe this is normal for upgrades
- Check-in prior resulted in error, "We're sorry. We can't validate your ticket. Please contact your local reservation office for assistance"
- SMS Agent tries a few things ("try again"). Nothing changes; says to go to airport.
- Check-in agent argues with PAX about covid paperwork (would not accept 2 doses + official covid recovery 60 days ago). Redcoat needs to be called in to allow check-in.
- Okay, now successfully checked in. Is PAX anywhere to be found on upgrade list? Of course not. Remember, Delta promised upgrade LOL.
- New SMS Agent. Agent escalates. Escalation agent finds some official notice that upgrades need to be requested 3hrs prior. Itinerary has noted "Upgrade waitlisted" for weeks.
For a last bit of even more fun. MSP-AMS cancelled last minute. Rebooked on a flight 20 hours later. Finally in the air now.
#18
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: missing YX more every day
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"Fun" recap of the outgoing journey from this booking...
- Itinerary had 2 identical routes SEA-MSP , I believe this is normal for upgrades
- Check-in prior resulted in error, "We're sorry. We can't validate your ticket. Please contact your local reservation office for assistance"
- SMS Agent tries a few things ("try again"). Nothing changes; says to go to airport.
- Check-in agent argues with PAX about covid paperwork (would not accept 2 doses + official covid recovery 60 days ago). Redcoat needs to be called in to allow check-in.
- Okay, now successfully checked in. Is PAX anywhere to be found on upgrade list? Of course not. Remember, Delta promised upgrade LOL.
- New SMS Agent. Agent escalates. Escalation agent finds some official notice that upgrades need to be requested 3hrs prior. Itinerary has noted "Upgrade waitlisted" for weeks.
For a last bit of even more fun. MSP-AMS cancelled last minute. Rebooked on a flight 20 hours later. Finally in the air now.
- Itinerary had 2 identical routes SEA-MSP , I believe this is normal for upgrades
- Check-in prior resulted in error, "We're sorry. We can't validate your ticket. Please contact your local reservation office for assistance"
- SMS Agent tries a few things ("try again"). Nothing changes; says to go to airport.
- Check-in agent argues with PAX about covid paperwork (would not accept 2 doses + official covid recovery 60 days ago). Redcoat needs to be called in to allow check-in.
- Okay, now successfully checked in. Is PAX anywhere to be found on upgrade list? Of course not. Remember, Delta promised upgrade LOL.
- New SMS Agent. Agent escalates. Escalation agent finds some official notice that upgrades need to be requested 3hrs prior. Itinerary has noted "Upgrade waitlisted" for weeks.
For a last bit of even more fun. MSP-AMS cancelled last minute. Rebooked on a flight 20 hours later. Finally in the air now.
#20
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#21
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"Fun" recap of the outgoing journey from this booking...
- Itinerary had 2 identical routes SEA-MSP , I believe this is normal for upgrades
- Check-in prior resulted in error, "We're sorry. We can't validate your ticket. Please contact your local reservation office for assistance"
- SMS Agent tries a few things ("try again"). Nothing changes; says to go to airport.
- Check-in agent argues with PAX about covid paperwork (would not accept 2 doses + official covid recovery 60 days ago). Redcoat needs to be called in to allow check-in.
- Okay, now successfully checked in. Is PAX anywhere to be found on upgrade list? Of course not. Remember, Delta promised upgrade LOL.
- New SMS Agent. Agent escalates. Escalation agent finds some official notice that upgrades need to be requested 3hrs prior. Itinerary has noted "Upgrade waitlisted" for weeks.
For a last bit of even more fun. MSP-AMS cancelled last minute. Rebooked on a flight 20 hours later. Finally in the air now.
- Itinerary had 2 identical routes SEA-MSP , I believe this is normal for upgrades
- Check-in prior resulted in error, "We're sorry. We can't validate your ticket. Please contact your local reservation office for assistance"
- SMS Agent tries a few things ("try again"). Nothing changes; says to go to airport.
- Check-in agent argues with PAX about covid paperwork (would not accept 2 doses + official covid recovery 60 days ago). Redcoat needs to be called in to allow check-in.
- Okay, now successfully checked in. Is PAX anywhere to be found on upgrade list? Of course not. Remember, Delta promised upgrade LOL.
- New SMS Agent. Agent escalates. Escalation agent finds some official notice that upgrades need to be requested 3hrs prior. Itinerary has noted "Upgrade waitlisted" for weeks.
For a last bit of even more fun. MSP-AMS cancelled last minute. Rebooked on a flight 20 hours later. Finally in the air now.
Sorry that you were stuck in MSP overnight. I hope you found a good airport hotel.
#22
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#23
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Intercontinental connected to airport, was pretty decent.
#24
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Well done for the hotel, although I find it amazing that you can't walk from the hotel to the airport at most times even if you have a boarding pass and only hand luggage.
#25
#26
Join Date: Dec 2014
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I've done mileage upgrades many times - and actually just booked one last night.
Mileage upgrade space availability isn't visible online. GUC availability is a different pool than mileage upgrade space, so finding GUC space doesn't guarantee a mileage upgrade avail. The only way to find out about mileage upgrade availability is by calling/texting with Delta and have them check for you. I've learned to be flexible with dates and routes to find availability. Also mileage upgrades have to clear 24 hours before departure. And you can use them on the domestic segment of an international flight, but more often than not it won't be available and you'll be waitlisted.
Yes, K class is the lowest fare for qualifying, but sometimes it's actually cheaper to purchase a higher fare class. I always check this part myself by doing an advanced search on Matrix and limiting the fare classes. I find it's easier than having the agents check, especially when you have to mix fare classes. That said, some fare classes, like W for example, have underlying fare classes which may not quality. Some W's do, and some have a low underlier like a T which doesn't allow for upgrades. But the only way to really see those are to ask the agents.
Good luck! Availability is so limited for mileage upgrades this summer and fall, as everyone is excited to get back to traveling abroad and flights are filling up quickly.
Mileage upgrade space availability isn't visible online. GUC availability is a different pool than mileage upgrade space, so finding GUC space doesn't guarantee a mileage upgrade avail. The only way to find out about mileage upgrade availability is by calling/texting with Delta and have them check for you. I've learned to be flexible with dates and routes to find availability. Also mileage upgrades have to clear 24 hours before departure. And you can use them on the domestic segment of an international flight, but more often than not it won't be available and you'll be waitlisted.
Yes, K class is the lowest fare for qualifying, but sometimes it's actually cheaper to purchase a higher fare class. I always check this part myself by doing an advanced search on Matrix and limiting the fare classes. I find it's easier than having the agents check, especially when you have to mix fare classes. That said, some fare classes, like W for example, have underlying fare classes which may not quality. Some W's do, and some have a low underlier like a T which doesn't allow for upgrades. But the only way to really see those are to ask the agents.
Good luck! Availability is so limited for mileage upgrades this summer and fall, as everyone is excited to get back to traveling abroad and flights are filling up quickly.
#27
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Before DL changed the GUC rules, I certainly had the impression that GUCs and mileage upgrade awards booked into the same upgrade inventory class.
#28
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Nope. I've been doing mileage upgrades for years and they've never been the same, and they've always been unsearchable by consumers. Maybe one day they'll make it visible to alleviate the already overly busy agents. There was rumor for awhile that maybe there was a correlation, and folks would sometimes search for that space or saverawards hoping that it might also mean a mileage upgrade would be available -- but not the case.
Another thing in my experience, and i'm sure it's not everyones, when a segment doesn't clear for the mileage upgrade award, you are waitlisted. That waitlist has to clear at least 24 hours beforehand, and I've had no luck in getting clearance from the waitlist. That said, my medallion upgrade would kick in on domestic legs and sometimes I'd clear at the gate that way.
Lastly, another little exception - and there's a whole thread for mileage upgrades you could check out tho it might be outdated -- when booking a mileage upgrade on Air France or KLM you have to be in Y,M, or B which are usually prohibitively expensive. You can also do them on Virgin Atlantic with the same Delta fare classes. But on these non-Delta carriers, they are almost never available and/or very pricy.
Another thing in my experience, and i'm sure it's not everyones, when a segment doesn't clear for the mileage upgrade award, you are waitlisted. That waitlist has to clear at least 24 hours beforehand, and I've had no luck in getting clearance from the waitlist. That said, my medallion upgrade would kick in on domestic legs and sometimes I'd clear at the gate that way.
Lastly, another little exception - and there's a whole thread for mileage upgrades you could check out tho it might be outdated -- when booking a mileage upgrade on Air France or KLM you have to be in Y,M, or B which are usually prohibitively expensive. You can also do them on Virgin Atlantic with the same Delta fare classes. But on these non-Delta carriers, they are almost never available and/or very pricy.
#29
Join Date: Aug 2011
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