Delta PM - Access lounge in YYZ (Toronto)?
Apr 18, 2022, 6:20 am
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Delta PM - Access lounge in YYZ (Toronto)?
Can a Delta PM (with Amex Reserve) access the Westjet partner lounge in YYZ? Flying ATL-YYZ-YYC on June 20, 2022.
The announcement one year ago between Delta and Westjet:
Today, partners WestJet and Delta announced the launch of reciprocal top-tier benefits. ... Delta Medallion and WestJet Rewards members have been earning miles and WestJet dollars on either airline since 2014 and as of today, the airlines are further enhancing their reciprocal offering as part of a shared goal to improve and deepen the advantages for their guests. ... Qualifying WestJet Business cabin guests and top-tier Rewards members now have access to all Delta Sky Clubs when they fly an eligible itinerary with either WestJet or Delta.
Westjet advertises a "partner lounge" in YYZ. From he Westjet website:
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/airport/lounges
In my opinion, if this were a true reciprocal benefit, it would seem Delta flyers would be able to access a lounge in the same way a Westjet customer would. But somehow, I am guessing this deal is offering nothing to Delta passengers despite the "reciprocal benefits"
The announcement one year ago between Delta and Westjet:
Today, partners WestJet and Delta announced the launch of reciprocal top-tier benefits. ... Delta Medallion and WestJet Rewards members have been earning miles and WestJet dollars on either airline since 2014 and as of today, the airlines are further enhancing their reciprocal offering as part of a shared goal to improve and deepen the advantages for their guests. ... Qualifying WestJet Business cabin guests and top-tier Rewards members now have access to all Delta Sky Clubs when they fly an eligible itinerary with either WestJet or Delta.
Westjet advertises a "partner lounge" in YYZ. From he Westjet website:
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/airport/lounges
- Platinum, Gold and Silver WestJet Rewards members are eligible for complimentary lounge access based on their tier benefits.
In my opinion, if this were a true reciprocal benefit, it would seem Delta flyers would be able to access a lounge in the same way a Westjet customer would. But somehow, I am guessing this deal is offering nothing to Delta passengers despite the "reciprocal benefits"
Last edited by pfreet; Apr 18, 2022 at 6:38 am Reason: wrong airport
Apr 18, 2022, 9:01 am
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Can we assume the OP is flying ATL-YYZ operated by DL and connecting to YYZ-YYC operated by WestJet, all in coach?
Apr 18, 2022, 9:21 am
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HUH? OP enters Canada at YYZ for the domestic Canadian connecting flight. One is only stuck in the transborder area (holding pen) when leaving Canada, although it's also possible (I don't recall the airport where this happened) to be stuck in a holding area when connecting USA-Canada-EU (or other international destination).
Apr 18, 2022, 10:16 am
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Can a Delta PM (with Amex Reserve) access the Westjet partner lounge in YYZ? Flying ATL-YYZ-YYC on June 20, 2022.
The announcement one year ago between Delta and Westjet:
Today, partners WestJet and Delta announced the launch of reciprocal top-tier benefits. ... Delta Medallion and WestJet Rewards members have been earning miles and WestJet dollars on either airline since 2014 and as of today, the airlines are further enhancing their reciprocal offering as part of a shared goal to improve and deepen the advantages for their guests. ... Qualifying WestJet Business cabin guests and top-tier Rewards members now have access to all Delta Sky Clubs when they fly an eligible itinerary with either WestJet or Delta.
Westjet advertises a "partner lounge" in YYZ. From he Westjet website:
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/airport/lounges
In my opinion, if this were a true reciprocal benefit, it would seem Delta flyers would be able to access a lounge in the same way a Westjet customer would. But somehow, I am guessing this deal is offering nothing to Delta passengers despite the "reciprocal benefits"
The announcement one year ago between Delta and Westjet:
Today, partners WestJet and Delta announced the launch of reciprocal top-tier benefits. ... Delta Medallion and WestJet Rewards members have been earning miles and WestJet dollars on either airline since 2014 and as of today, the airlines are further enhancing their reciprocal offering as part of a shared goal to improve and deepen the advantages for their guests. ... Qualifying WestJet Business cabin guests and top-tier Rewards members now have access to all Delta Sky Clubs when they fly an eligible itinerary with either WestJet or Delta.
Westjet advertises a "partner lounge" in YYZ. From he Westjet website:
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/airport/lounges
- Platinum, Gold and Silver WestJet Rewards members are eligible for complimentary lounge access based on their tier benefits.
In my opinion, if this were a true reciprocal benefit, it would seem Delta flyers would be able to access a lounge in the same way a Westjet customer would. But somehow, I am guessing this deal is offering nothing to Delta passengers despite the "reciprocal benefits"
That's what reciprocal means.
It does not mean Delta flyers are treated the same as Westjet flyers for all purposes.
That is not what reciprocal means.
Last edited by Adam1222; Apr 18, 2022 at 10:22 am
Apr 18, 2022, 1:00 pm
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Apr 18, 2022, 1:54 pm
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(Just as WS members would only have access to DL Sky Club and not DL third party lounges).
Apr 19, 2022, 4:51 am
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HUH? OP enters Canada at YYZ for the domestic Canadian connecting flight. One is only stuck in the transborder area (holding pen) when leaving Canada, although it's also possible (I don't recall the airport where this happened) to be stuck in a holding area when connecting USA-Canada-EU (or other international destination).
May 12, 2023, 10:52 am
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Has anyone tried using the Air France-KLM lounge when transiting in YYZ from Delta to Westjet?
It seems like it should meet the SkyTeam Elite+ requirements.... international flight on Delta ticket (and presumably YYZ-YYC on WS metal is codeshare DL as would be typical on such a ticket). And it's also not a SkyClub, so the crappy new SkyClub rules on lounge access for elites won't apply.
Also, while the lounge is in the international section of Terminal 3, there is no division between domestic and international, so a domestic passenger (e.g. YYZ-YYC) can just walk down to the end of the international pier and take the elevator up to the Air France-KLM Lounge. I used the lounge last weekend on a domestic WS flight (no connection) using credit card access, but it seems like it should work for DL passengers transiting onto WS.
The only actual WS lounge I'm aware of is in YYC (which looks pretty great... I would love to try it if I transited through YYC).
It seems like it should meet the SkyTeam Elite+ requirements.... international flight on Delta ticket (and presumably YYZ-YYC on WS metal is codeshare DL as would be typical on such a ticket). And it's also not a SkyClub, so the crappy new SkyClub rules on lounge access for elites won't apply.
Also, while the lounge is in the international section of Terminal 3, there is no division between domestic and international, so a domestic passenger (e.g. YYZ-YYC) can just walk down to the end of the international pier and take the elevator up to the Air France-KLM Lounge. I used the lounge last weekend on a domestic WS flight (no connection) using credit card access, but it seems like it should work for DL passengers transiting onto WS.
The only actual WS lounge I'm aware of is in YYC (which looks pretty great... I would love to try it if I transited through YYC).
May 12, 2023, 10:56 am
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Has anyone tried using the Air France-KLM lounge when transiting in YYZ from Delta to Westjet?
It seems like it should meet the SkyTeam Elite+ requirements.... international flight on Delta ticket (and presumably YYZ-YYC on WS metal is codeshare DL as would be typical on such a ticket). And it's also not a SkyClub, so the crappy new SkyClub rules on lounge access for elites won't apply.
Also, while the lounge is in the international section of Terminal 3, there is no division between domestic and international, so a domestic passenger (e.g. YYZ-YYC) can just walk down to the end of the international pier and take the elevator up to the Air France-KLM Lounge. I used the lounge last weekend on a domestic WS flight (no connection) using credit card access, but it seems like it should work for DL passengers transiting onto WS.
The only actual WS lounge I'm aware of is in YYC (which looks pretty great... I would love to try it if I transited through YYC).
It seems like it should meet the SkyTeam Elite+ requirements.... international flight on Delta ticket (and presumably YYZ-YYC on WS metal is codeshare DL as would be typical on such a ticket). And it's also not a SkyClub, so the crappy new SkyClub rules on lounge access for elites won't apply.
Also, while the lounge is in the international section of Terminal 3, there is no division between domestic and international, so a domestic passenger (e.g. YYZ-YYC) can just walk down to the end of the international pier and take the elevator up to the Air France-KLM Lounge. I used the lounge last weekend on a domestic WS flight (no connection) using credit card access, but it seems like it should work for DL passengers transiting onto WS.
The only actual WS lounge I'm aware of is in YYC (which looks pretty great... I would love to try it if I transited through YYC).
May 12, 2023, 11:39 am
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If one was connecting to a Skyteam "operated" flight it would be valid for access. But connecting to a DL coded, WS operated flight wouldn't qualify as WS is not Skyteam.