Sky Club Access Lines and Waiting due to capacity
Apr 12, 22, 9:00 am
#91
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Originally Posted by TomMM
They don’t care what you do and the United Club situation at hubs ain’t any better.
Any business that doesn't have a monopoly and doesn't care what it's customers are thinking and doing is a fool.
Apr 12, 22, 9:52 am
#92
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Originally Posted by SS255
My brother just got into the Sky Club at LAX after waiting 28 minutes.
Jiburi
Apr 12, 22, 9:54 am
#93
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Originally Posted by dtwlarry
Good points. If I may interject an oddball item...are there "fewer seats" than there were previously? To my eyes, DTW A38 had a lot more seating prior to trying to social distance 2 years ago, and even a month or two ago, it didn't seem like A38 was as packed (like sardines, or cheek by jowl, you choose your alliteration) as it was in 2019, where it was kneecaps in aisles, all over. Are the ATL lounges at similar seating quantities as they were 2019?
As stated, the Florida lounges are absolutely slammed with spring breakers, etc. I've seen a bunch of different stories and articles about the hordes invading the Magic Kingdom, etc. Figures the FL lounges are PACKED!
As stated, the Florida lounges are absolutely slammed with spring breakers, etc. I've seen a bunch of different stories and articles about the hordes invading the Magic Kingdom, etc. Figures the FL lounges are PACKED!
Apr 12, 22, 10:06 am
#94
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Originally Posted by VFR
Limiting guests is tough because for a lot of people, their guest is going to be a spouse.
Apr 12, 22, 12:07 pm
#95
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Part of the problem is DL’s lack of D1 dedicated lounges . At the major international gateway clubs , having a dedicated D1 lounge would remove hundreds of folks from the Skyclubs at peak departure times . Not having D1 lounges is really a negative when comparing to UA Polaris and AA Flagship . I would not be a happy camper paying for J and being told I have to wait 30 mins or longer to enter a Skyclub .
Apr 12, 22, 12:51 pm
#96
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Originally Posted by 123run
Is domestic travel above pre-covid levels? Something has to account for the increase numbers in the club., besides an increase in Amex users. The only time I had more than a few minutes wait pre covid to get in occurred during major bad weather delays. I know I’ve now been sitting in clubs for longer stretches due to longer connection times.
Apr 12, 22, 1:17 pm
#97
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Why is there an increase in AmEx users? Do you mean more cardmembers? This seems strange at the same time as AmEx is increasing its annual fees and lots of people are reportedly quitting their jobs. (The economy is bad so I'll pay more for more credit cards and qualify to get them?)
Apr 12, 22, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
This seems strange at the same time as AmEx is increasing its annual fees and lots of people are reportedly quitting their jobs. (The economy is bad so I'll pay more for more credit cards and qualify to get them?)
Apr 12, 22, 2:47 pm
#100
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Originally Posted by Mister Nice
Part of the problem is DL’s lack of D1 dedicated lounges . At the major international gateway clubs , having a dedicated D1 lounge would remove hundreds of folks from the Skyclubs at peak departure times . Not having D1 lounges is really a negative when comparing to UA Polaris and AA Flagship . I would not be a happy camper paying for J and being told I have to wait 30 mins or longer to enter a Skyclub .
Apr 12, 22, 5:52 pm
#101
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Originally Posted by scklumb
I don't see how having a dedicated D1 lounge would help vs using that sq footage to building an additional skyclub or enlarging an existing skyclub. The "hundreds" of D1 passengers still consume the same amount of space. So wouldn't it make more sense to just expand or build additional skyclubs. And if you have a D1 only club, doesn't it really only help during D1 departures hours, and during other times the club will be basically empty?
Apr 12, 22, 7:21 pm
#103
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Originally Posted by Xeno
My memory is that the ATL dedicated BE lounges also served as arrivals lounges. Beyond that there are D1 flights that leave at midnight.
Apr 12, 22, 7:23 pm
#104
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Originally Posted by scklumb
I don't see how having a dedicated D1 lounge would help vs using that sq footage to building an additional skyclub or enlarging an existing skyclub. The "hundreds" of D1 passengers still consume the same amount of space. So wouldn't it make more sense to just expand or build additional skyclubs. And if you have a D1 only club, doesn't it really only help during D1 departures hours, and during other times the club will be basically empty?
I think the new SC at DTW is a lot nicer than the other ones even though it is small and would make for a great D1 lounge, just don't charge for any alcohol.
Apr 12, 22, 7:26 pm
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Do many D1 passengers drink in the lounge or wait to be served the better stuff on board? F&B on board is entertainment to some extent, versus using the lounge to work. Of course, the decision making changes if one plans to have a meal in the lounge before boarding and then to immediately try to sleep on the flight.
