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Sep 1, 2022, 1:20 am
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'A" shows as discounted coach on the chart. If you guess that Premium Economy will be between Full Economy and Business you probably get a 25 or 50% boost on MQM and 25% - 30% on MQD.
MQM for K and A is 100% of Distance. (You can use https://cwsi.net/calc/dl/ to calculate the distances.
MQD for K is 20% of distance and for A it's 10%. DXB-AMS is 3209 each way (6418 total MQM and $1283 MQD). AMS-IAH is 4998 each way (9996 total MQM and $1000 MQD).
Last edited by SuperG1955; Sep 1, 2022 at 1:43 am Reason: Add info about A Fare Class
Sep 1, 2022, 8:09 am
#1247
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Basic info is here https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...rline-partners
'A" shows as discounted coach on the chart. If you guess that Premium Economy will be between Full Economy and Business you probably get a 25 or 50% boost on MQM and 25% - 30% on MQD.
MQM for K and A is 100% of Distance. (You can use https://cwsi.net/calc/dl/ to calculate the distances.
MQD for K is 20% of distance and for A it's 10%. DXB-AMS is 3209 each way (6418 total MQM and $1283 MQD). AMS-IAH is 4998 each way (9996 total MQM and $1000 MQD).
'A" shows as discounted coach on the chart. If you guess that Premium Economy will be between Full Economy and Business you probably get a 25 or 50% boost on MQM and 25% - 30% on MQD.
MQM for K and A is 100% of Distance. (You can use https://cwsi.net/calc/dl/ to calculate the distances.
MQD for K is 20% of distance and for A it's 10%. DXB-AMS is 3209 each way (6418 total MQM and $1283 MQD). AMS-IAH is 4998 each way (9996 total MQM and $1000 MQD).
I am also confused with A showing deep discount on Delta. May be I am reading it wrong fare code or Fare class. So Just wanted to make sure before I book this ticket.
Sep 1, 2022, 8:13 am
#1248
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Premium Economy on KLM is a very recent thing, so probably the earnings chart on the DL website just hasn't been updated yet. I would be skeptical whether the backend coding has happened either for it to credit as PE vs. discounted economy. You might end up having to call in to get proper credit, assuming the table is even updated between now and then.
Sep 1, 2022, 8:27 am
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Is PE available on the DXB-AMS and vv segments? (It might not be due to the aircraft type.) If so, check the price of a ticket thats all in PE. Breaking the fare might mean that you're paying more to sit in coach.
Sep 1, 2022, 9:55 am
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Premium Economy on KLM is a very recent thing, so probably the earnings chart on the DL website just hasn't been updated yet. I would be skeptical whether the backend coding has happened either for it to credit as PE vs. discounted economy. You might end up having to call in to get proper credit, assuming the table is even updated between now and then.
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Sep 1, 2022, 10:31 am
#1251
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No PE is not available DXB-AMS segments on KL flights. there is DXB-CDG-AMS on AF with PE but price is high.
Sep 1, 2022, 10:48 am
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While KL is just now adding PE cabins to their own equipment, they've had W/S/A PE fare filings for awhile now which they've been selling on partner metal like DL and AF (marketed as "Premium Comfort Class" on KL website). If they are not already, they will almost certainly at some point credit like W/S/A PE fares shown in AF chart. Note that KL website will sell DL marketed P/A/G PS fares on non-stop DL flights (which will credit miles/MQD based on price, not distance), so you need to be careful if you specifically want KL/AF marketed flights with distance based earnings (see below for example of KL site selling DL marketed flight with DL G fare).
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Sep 2, 2022, 7:21 am
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I've been searching for Delta One award tickets on Virgin Atlantic from ATL/JFK to CDG/FCO. A few days ago when I was looking there was a decent amount of availability (multiple dates for each outbound and inbound flights for January 2023). Today when I'm looking the entire calendar is blank.
I'm new to looking at Delta One award availability with Virgin Atlantic. Is it possible that certain routes just get "removed" temporarily from inventory, whether by a technical glitch or Delta just being weird?
I'm new to looking at Delta One award availability with Virgin Atlantic. Is it possible that certain routes just get "removed" temporarily from inventory, whether by a technical glitch or Delta just being weird?
Sep 2, 2022, 7:26 am
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I've been searching for Delta One award tickets on Virgin Atlantic from ATL/JFK to CDG/FCO. A few days ago when I was looking there was a decent amount of availability (multiple dates for each outbound and inbound flights for January 2023). Today when I'm looking the entire calendar is blank.
I'm new to looking at Delta One award availability with Virgin Atlantic. Is it possible that certain routes just get "removed" temporarily from inventory, whether by a technical glitch or Delta just being weird?
I'm new to looking at Delta One award availability with Virgin Atlantic. Is it possible that certain routes just get "removed" temporarily from inventory, whether by a technical glitch or Delta just being weird?
2 - yeah, it seems to me like delta adds and removes the inventory one month at a time. I know this isn't a rule, and I'm sure it is broken often, but it seems to be the case whenever I check.
3. with the 30% amex transfer bonus I would expect availability to disappear fast.
All the ATL-MUC availability that was there yesterday is gone now too. I think the AmEx VS transfer bonus cleared it out.
Sep 2, 2022, 8:12 am
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I've been searching for Delta One award tickets on Virgin Atlantic from ATL/JFK to CDG/FCO. A few days ago when I was looking there was a decent amount of availability (multiple dates for each outbound and inbound flights for January 2023). Today when I'm looking the entire calendar is blank.
I'm new to looking at Delta One award availability with Virgin Atlantic. Is it possible that certain routes just get "removed" temporarily from inventory, whether by a technical glitch or Delta just being weird?
I'm new to looking at Delta One award availability with Virgin Atlantic. Is it possible that certain routes just get "removed" temporarily from inventory, whether by a technical glitch or Delta just being weird?
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Sep 2, 2022, 12:54 pm
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I need 4,300 MQM's to get to Platinum. I could upgrade from my Delta branded Platinum AMEX to a Reserve card (prefer the Platinum however), or I could book another multi-stop flight just to collect MQM's (already have a couple vacations booked this fall though), my wife has 16,000 MQM's that she will lose at end of year since she won't reach medallion status on her own (but don't think they can't transfer unless she has a Reserve card?). Any insights on the best solution?
Sep 2, 2022, 1:06 pm
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I need 4,300 MQM's to get to Platinum. I could upgrade from my Delta branded Platinum AMEX to a Reserve card (prefer the Platinum however), or I could book another multi-stop flight just to collect MQM's (already have a couple vacations booked this fall though), my wife has 16,000 MQM's that she will lose at end of year since she won't reach medallion status on her own (but don't think they can't transfer unless she has a Reserve card?). Any insights on the best solution?
Sep 2, 2022, 1:09 pm
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I need 4,300 MQM's to get to Platinum. I could upgrade from my Delta branded Platinum AMEX to a Reserve card (prefer the Platinum however), or I could book another multi-stop flight just to collect MQM's (already have a couple vacations booked this fall though), my wife has 16,000 MQM's that she will lose at end of year since she won't reach medallion status on her own (but don't think they can't transfer unless she has a Reserve card?). Any insights on the best solution?
Sep 4, 2022, 7:15 am
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Question about a JFK departure.
Looks like my flight to Boston is leaving from T2. Would I be able to check my bag at T4 (use the Centurion lounge) and then take the Jitney to T2 before my departure to BOS? Or do I need to check my bag in at T2?
Looks like my flight to Boston is leaving from T2. Would I be able to check my bag at T4 (use the Centurion lounge) and then take the Jitney to T2 before my departure to BOS? Or do I need to check my bag in at T2?