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Hello Everyone,
Due to a merging error - much of the history of this thread is sitting in the Amex Companion fare thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/2053727-using-skymiles-skyteam-other-partners-master-thread.html
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Ryandc99
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Due to a merging error - much of the history of this thread is sitting in the Amex Companion fare thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/2053727-using-skymiles-skyteam-other-partners-master-thread.html
The moderation team is in the process of moving posts over to this thread, however it is a very manual process that requires reading every post in the two merged mega threads, so please bear with us as we piece this together.
Regards,
Ryandc99
Moderator Delta Air Lines
Using SkyMiles on SkyTeam & Other Partners Master Thread
#136
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 26,355
Hi! Newbie poster here.
I've got my first ever DL-coded, AF operated RT coming up JFKCDG in Premium Economy. I'm DM and not expecting a comp upg, but I'd love to buyup to J if it's a decent deal. Do I need to check in on the AF app instead of the DL app in hopes of an offer? Can I assume that I won't get any MQDs on a buy up (above and beyond my ticketed fare MQDs on a DL flight number).
Thanks!
I've got my first ever DL-coded, AF operated RT coming up JFKCDG in Premium Economy. I'm DM and not expecting a comp upg, but I'd love to buyup to J if it's a decent deal. Do I need to check in on the AF app instead of the DL app in hopes of an offer? Can I assume that I won't get any MQDs on a buy up (above and beyond my ticketed fare MQDs on a DL flight number).
Thanks!
You can use the DL PNR in AF app to pull up reservation.
No additional MQM/MQD as you're not reticketed in new class of service, just seated in the higher cabin..
If you elect upgrade all the way to First, don't forget to ask for your free wifi code onboard. The system will see you in W still when try and login. They have to get a code for you to get in free.
#137
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 28
Skymiles availability on Aeromexico
I have in the past used skymiles booked through the delta website and app to get Mexican domestics with Aeromexico. Ive been trying to find availability for MEX-MID-MEX in August and September and nothing but a message comes up saying call the helpline. Ive tried finding flights on other days up to a year ahead and on other AM routes but still nothing.
Have Skymiles redemptions on AM metal stopped, or is there something Im doing wrong here?
Have Skymiles redemptions on AM metal stopped, or is there something Im doing wrong here?
#138
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 26,355
I have in the past used skymiles booked through the delta website and app to get Mexican domestics with Aeromexico. Ive been trying to find availability for MEX-MID-MEX in August and September and nothing but a message comes up saying call the helpline. Ive tried finding flights on other days up to a year ahead and on other AM routes but still nothing.
Have Skymiles redemptions on AM metal stopped, or is there something Im doing wrong here?
Have Skymiles redemptions on AM metal stopped, or is there something Im doing wrong here?
#139
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 635
Award space (AF)
Hi,
Bringing back a previous thread: trying to book AF 473 MRU-CDG (O) for Oct. 2022. Both AF and Virgin Atlantic showing O fare class available. Delta agent on the chat says nothing available. Any suggestions? Thanks
Quick update: I just spoke to a Delta agent on the phone, she put me on hold while she checked with the support desk but she said they can't see any availability either. Not sure if there are any options left.
Update 2: Since Delta site does show availability on AF 470 CDG-MRU (O) I tried searching the ticket as a return trip AF 470 / AF 473 and all of a sudden availability did show up on AF 473. Would I be able able book the ticket as a return trip and then call back Delta to cancel the outbound and reprice AF 473 as one way?
Bringing back a previous thread: trying to book AF 473 MRU-CDG (O) for Oct. 2022. Both AF and Virgin Atlantic showing O fare class available. Delta agent on the chat says nothing available. Any suggestions? Thanks
Quick update: I just spoke to a Delta agent on the phone, she put me on hold while she checked with the support desk but she said they can't see any availability either. Not sure if there are any options left.
Update 2: Since Delta site does show availability on AF 470 CDG-MRU (O) I tried searching the ticket as a return trip AF 470 / AF 473 and all of a sudden availability did show up on AF 473. Would I be able able book the ticket as a return trip and then call back Delta to cancel the outbound and reprice AF 473 as one way?
Last edited by Mister P.; Apr 24, 22 at 2:17 pm Reason: Update
#140
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 26,355
Hi,
Bringing back a previous thread: trying to book AF 473 MRU-CDG (O) for Oct. 2022. Both AF and Virgin Atlantic showing O fare class available. Delta agent on the chat says nothing available. Any suggestions? Thanks
Quick update: I just spoke to a Delta agent on the phone, she put me on hold while she checked with the support desk but she said they can't see any availability either. Not sure if there are any options left.
Update 2: Since Delta site does show availability on AF 470 CDG-MRU (O) I tried searching the ticket as a return trip AF 470 / AF 473 and all of a sudden availability did show up on AF 473. Would I be able able book the ticket as a return trip and then call back Delta to cancel the outbound and reprice AF 473 as one way?
Bringing back a previous thread: trying to book AF 473 MRU-CDG (O) for Oct. 2022. Both AF and Virgin Atlantic showing O fare class available. Delta agent on the chat says nothing available. Any suggestions? Thanks
Quick update: I just spoke to a Delta agent on the phone, she put me on hold while she checked with the support desk but she said they can't see any availability either. Not sure if there are any options left.
Update 2: Since Delta site does show availability on AF 470 CDG-MRU (O) I tried searching the ticket as a return trip AF 470 / AF 473 and all of a sudden availability did show up on AF 473. Would I be able able book the ticket as a return trip and then call back Delta to cancel the outbound and reprice AF 473 as one way?
There's an issue with SEZ/MRU on the return search for awards. system doesn't search correctly..
#142
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,770
I would like to book DXB to ARN on KL/AF. So far, I only found availability for DXB-AMS, which I’ve locked in because I’m worried the award space may disappear. If AMS-ARN opens up later, can I tag it on to my existing booking? Or can I only change it if there’s still additional award space for DXB-AMS as well?
And is it really true that there’s a $150 fee if I want to cancel the booking more than 24 hours after booking?!
And is it really true that there’s a $150 fee if I want to cancel the booking more than 24 hours after booking?!
#143
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: LGA/JFK
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 52
Booking on KE
Trying to use SkyMiles for 2 economy tix one way MNL-JFK. delta.dumb shows availability for a well-timed MNL-ICN-JFK itinerary. Website does the 'flight sold out' message at the last part of booking. Called into the call center to book, they saw the flights and started to ticket, then said the ICN-JFK leg wasn't actually available. Hung up. Went to expertflyer which indicated no availability on those flights. Set alert. Got alert 6 hours later showing availability. Logged into expertflyer, still showing availability. Delta.dumb also showing flight bookable (but same flight sold out message at end of ticketing workflow). Call into call center, get call back 2 hours later. Agent sees availability, starts to ticket, puts me on hold, comes back with ICN-JFK leg not actually available.
Haven't dealt with a booking like this in years, or a KE booking ever. Is phantom availability thing here? Any way to figure out definitive availability or secret words to ask the call center reps to get this thing to actually ticket?
Haven't dealt with a booking like this in years, or a KE booking ever. Is phantom availability thing here? Any way to figure out definitive availability or secret words to ask the call center reps to get this thing to actually ticket?
#144
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
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Posts: 26,355
I would like to book DXB to ARN on KL/AF. So far, I only found availability for DXB-AMS, which Ive locked in because Im worried the award space may disappear. If AMS-ARN opens up later, can I tag it on to my existing booking? Or can I only change it if theres still additional award space for DXB-AMS as well?
And is it really true that theres a $150 fee if I want to cancel the booking more than 24 hours after booking?!
And is it really true that theres a $150 fee if I want to cancel the booking more than 24 hours after booking?!
Fee applies for tickets not ex-NA/SA. HOWEVER, often agent doesn't pay attention and doesn't charge it..
Trying to use SkyMiles for 2 economy tix one way MNL-JFK. delta.dumb shows availability for a well-timed MNL-ICN-JFK itinerary. Website does the 'flight sold out' message at the last part of booking. Called into the call center to book, they saw the flights and started to ticket, then said the ICN-JFK leg wasn't actually available. Hung up. Went to expertflyer which indicated no availability on those flights. Set alert. Got alert 6 hours later showing availability. Logged into expertflyer, still showing availability. Delta.dumb also showing flight bookable (but same flight sold out message at end of ticketing workflow). Call into call center, get call back 2 hours later. Agent sees availability, starts to ticket, puts me on hold, comes back with ICN-JFK leg not actually available.
Haven't dealt with a booking like this in years, or a KE booking ever. Is phantom availability thing here? Any way to figure out definitive availability or secret words to ask the call center reps to get this thing to actually ticket?
Haven't dealt with a booking like this in years, or a KE booking ever. Is phantom availability thing here? Any way to figure out definitive availability or secret words to ask the call center reps to get this thing to actually ticket?
#145
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SFO/SMF
Programs: Hertz PC
Posts: 173
In the past, agents were able to book flights for me that showed up in ExpertFlyer's search. However, the last few days, I'm not able to get ahold of anyone to confirm seats in Fare Class O. They're all saying it's not possible. The flight comes up on KLM's website but I'm not sure who to trust. Is this just a phantom seat?
Last edited by SLV; May 19, 22 at 6:45 pm
#146
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
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In the past, agents were able to book flights for me that showed up in ExpertFlyer's search. However, the last few days, I'm not able to get ahold of anyone to confirm seats in Fare Class O. They're all saying it's not possible. The flight comes up on KLM's website but I'm not sure who to trust. Is this just a phantom seat?
#147
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: IAH
Programs: UA MM, AA almost MM
Posts: 1,145
Hi, I am looking at using Delta miles for a trip to Italy. I have a couple of questions. I have no status on Delta.
1. Has Delta suspended change fees for award travel? If not what are the change fees. The only thing I can find is the $150 redeposit fees and no fees within 24 hour of booking.
2. Is Delta good at accommodating schedule changes? I am looking AF from SEA to CDG connecting to AF CDG to VCE. According to Flight Aware, the last time SEA to CDG operated was a year ago. If SEA to CDG is changed, would Delta re-accommodate us either on KLM or on Delta?
many thanks.
1. Has Delta suspended change fees for award travel? If not what are the change fees. The only thing I can find is the $150 redeposit fees and no fees within 24 hour of booking.
2. Is Delta good at accommodating schedule changes? I am looking AF from SEA to CDG connecting to AF CDG to VCE. According to Flight Aware, the last time SEA to CDG operated was a year ago. If SEA to CDG is changed, would Delta re-accommodate us either on KLM or on Delta?
many thanks.
#148
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 22,071
Change/redeposit fees continue to be waived for all but Basic Economy awards (which are 9900 miles domestic, 19900 miles international). Although there are no partner Basic Economy awards (and DL has not yet offered them on it's own metal for long-haul international awards). AF SEA-CDG (AF355) has been operating since March 29th. DL can potentially open award inventory on their own flights for significant schedule changes, but not on partners. 2 hours is the CoC threshold for significant changes.
#149
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Change/redeposit fees continue to be waived for all but Basic Economy awards (which are 9900 miles domestic, 19900 miles international). Although there are no partner Basic Economy awards (and DL has not yet offered them on it's own metal for long-haul international awards). AF SEA-CDG (AF355) has been operating since March 29th. DL can potentially open award inventory on their own flights for significant schedule changes, but not on partners. 2 hours is the CoC threshold for significant changes.
Regardless, DL is usually willing to rebook for about any change IME. I've had 15 minute changes get rebooked by agents.
#150
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: IAH
Programs: UA MM, AA almost MM
Posts: 1,145
2 hours is CoC for refund, but 60 minutes i believe is minimum for free rebooking. Also drop below MCT, change in operating carrier (including change in RJ carrier) and change of connection get free rebooking. Change of carrier (again including RJ carriers) also qualifies for refund.
Regardless, DL is usually willing to rebook for about any change IME. I've had 15 minute changes get rebooked by agents.
Regardless, DL is usually willing to rebook for about any change IME. I've had 15 minute changes get rebooked by agents.