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The rumors were true. The deal is done. 7 ex-LATAM A350s 29 ex-Lion Air 737-900ERs

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Old Jun 16, 2021, 10:45 am
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The rumors were true. The deal is done. 7 ex-LATAM A350s 29 ex-Lion Air 737-900ERs

Being widely discussed on pilot forums, etc. that Delta has an aircraft order to announce as soon as tomorrow. Reportedly 7 used A350s (ex-LATAM) and ~29 737-900ER (possibly ex-Lion Air.)
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 10:56 am
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Not the 739! Please say it ain't so!
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 11:02 am
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maybe note the 350s...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhor...cy-filing/amp/
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 11:04 am
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May 2020 was a lifetime ago in terms of the airline business.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 11:04 am
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I saw this same article. Only thing I could potentially chalk it up to is the fact that it's over a year old? Maybe this recent announcement changes things?
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 11:10 am
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The question is for when. They paid millions not to take LATAM A350's last year and with international travel still pretty much in the toilet, it would make zero sense to commit to used widebodies anytime soon; especially with ongoing new deliveries they can't refuse.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 11:21 am
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The question is for when. They paid millions not to take LATAM A350's last year and with international travel still pretty much in the toilet, it would make zero sense to commit to used widebodies anytime soon; especially with ongoing new deliveries they can't refuse.
The millions paid for canceling the LATAM airframes is a sunk cost now -- if Delta's current forecast says they need more widebodies, I don't think they will exclude those A350s for the sole reason that they paid not to take them in the past.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 11:26 am
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The millions paid for canceling the LATAM airframes is a sunk cost now -- if Delta's current forecast says they need more widebodies, I don't think they will exclude those A350s for the sole reason that they paid not to take them in the past.
Now that their financial situation is stronger again, Delta may also view purchasing these aircraft as a way to help LATAM in addition to acquiring needed international lift to replace the now-retired 777 fleet. (Assuming LATAM still owns or is responsible for them, of course.)

If the planes have already gone back to the lessors, it's actually possible Delta could have ended up with net better terms than they had originally by taking them now, since the lessors may be desperate to place them quickly.

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Not the 739! Please say it ain't so!
The only thing worse than more 739s is more 739s with maintenance previously performed by Lion Air. Yikes.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 12:14 pm
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I'll believe it when I see it. If they acquired A350 from LATAM and 739 from Lion Air. We shall see what happens.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by VFR
The millions paid for canceling the LATAM airframes is a sunk cost now -- if Delta's current forecast says they need more widebodies, I don't think they will exclude those A350s for the sole reason that they paid not to take them in the past.
Which is why I queried when would they arrive, considering their current fleet is not being fully utilized and many countries are still closed for entry or have bans in place.

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The only thing worse than more 739s is more 739s with maintenance previously performed by Lion Air. Yikes.
Excluding the blocked sensor port on the MAX that lead to the crash, I don't recall Lion Air having maintenance problems. Runway excursions and overruns (of which they are king), are more of a training issue than maintenance. Either way, it's quite easy for a airline to determine if aircraft have been properly maintained; it's why Air India could not get their 777s sold.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 12:56 pm
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Oh yay, dumpster diving for more terrible 739s.

The A350s wouldn't be a bad acquisition to help replace the 777 fleet, at least they come from a reputable airline.
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Oh yay, dumpster diving for more terrible 739s.

The A350s wouldn't be a bad acquisition to help replace the 777 fleet, at least they come from a reputable airline.
Please, can they reconfigure those 739’s… Give us some more C+ and a midcabin lav, and some better air flow!
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Old Jun 16, 2021, 1:11 pm
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Just order the 787 already.
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Originally Posted by allseas1586
Please, can they reconfigure those 739’s… Give us some more C+ and a midcabin lav, and some better air flow!
While they’re at it they can lower the cabin floor, carve out a 2L boarding door, and find some quieter engines to put on it.
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