CVG, SJC and BNA lose “focus city” designation
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I'm wondering if DL is foreseeing less tech business with SJC being demoted. (It seems like a lot of tech companies may be doing more remote work & collaboration longer term and several corporate HQ folks are moving out of California, so maybe there'll be less demand out of SJC when air traffic returns).
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BNA always surprised me as a focus city as it's not a high yield location, largely due to lots of competition from WN. OTOH, it's a low cost of living urban area, so that could have made the economics work there. There would be some high tech firms due to Vanderbilt and its med school.
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Regardless of location, work from home (in tech and other areas) due to COVID-19 means essentially no business travel, although longer term, some of these companies could do work from home to cut expenses and ask people to travel regularly to headquarters or elsewhere for group meetings.
BNA always surprised me as a focus city as it's not a high yield location, largely due to lots of competition from WN. OTOH, it's a low cost of living urban area, so that could have made the economics work there. There would be some high tech firms due to Vanderbilt and its med school.
BNA always surprised me as a focus city as it's not a high yield location, largely due to lots of competition from WN. OTOH, it's a low cost of living urban area, so that could have made the economics work there. There would be some high tech firms due to Vanderbilt and its med school.
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I'm wondering if DL is foreseeing less tech business with SJC being demoted. (It seems like a lot of tech companies may be doing more remote work & collaboration longer term and several corporate HQ folks are moving out of California, so maybe there'll be less demand out of SJC when air traffic returns).
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The former AA club would've been a good candidate, but it's now a second "The Club" lounge. Also that location would've been better when DL was using the low numbered gates. 11-13 are closer to TSA and the exit, which is nice, but inconveniently in the middle between the two lounges...
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DL at SJC did see very significant growth recently. Barely 5 or 6 years ago, DL had a few CR2s to SLC and a few CR7/9 to LAX. Only 1 mainline flight to MSP. That was it.
Just before covid, it was 5x SLC, 5x LAX, 4x SEA, 3x LAS, 3x ATL, 3x MSP, 1-2x DTW, 1x JFK. All mainline except LAX/LAS
This put DL clearly into 3rd place at SJC and they were rewarded with the best gates in Terminal A. (1st and 2nd place are both in Terminal B).
I think this is a very reasonable offering. I don't expect DL will drop that service, nor do I expect they will grow it.
Just before covid, it was 5x SLC, 5x LAX, 4x SEA, 3x LAS, 3x ATL, 3x MSP, 1-2x DTW, 1x JFK. All mainline except LAX/LAS
This put DL clearly into 3rd place at SJC and they were rewarded with the best gates in Terminal A. (1st and 2nd place are both in Terminal B).
I think this is a very reasonable offering. I don't expect DL will drop that service, nor do I expect they will grow it.
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DL at SJC did see very significant growth recently. Barely 5 or 6 years ago, DL had a few CR2s to SLC and a few CR7/9 to LAX. Only 1 mainline flight to MSP. That was it.
Just before covid, it was 5x SLC, 5x LAX, 4x SEA, 3x LAS, 3x ATL, 3x MSP, 1-2x DTW, 1x JFK. All mainline except LAX/LAS
This put DL clearly into 3rd place at SJC and they were rewarded with the best gates in Terminal A. (1st and 2nd place are both in Terminal B).
I think this is a very reasonable offering. I don't expect DL will drop that service, nor do I expect they will grow it.
Just before covid, it was 5x SLC, 5x LAX, 4x SEA, 3x LAS, 3x ATL, 3x MSP, 1-2x DTW, 1x JFK. All mainline except LAX/LAS
This put DL clearly into 3rd place at SJC and they were rewarded with the best gates in Terminal A. (1st and 2nd place are both in Terminal B).
I think this is a very reasonable offering. I don't expect DL will drop that service, nor do I expect they will grow it.
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I'll preface by saying, I'm not contesting the validity of the announcement by any means. Also no intent to derail the thread. However. In 2012 I started ground handling for DC flights in a CRJ-200 only station. My supervisor at the time swore to me (and I believe it had been announced then, too) that the "CRJ-200s were being retired by 2013." My response was always that I'd believe it when I saw it. Same applies here. I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'll preface by saying, I'm not contesting the validity of the announcement by any means. Also no intent to derail the thread. However. In 2012 I started ground handling for DC flights in a CRJ-200 only station. My supervisor at the time swore to me (and I believe it had been announced then, too) that the "CRJ-200s were being retired by 2013." My response was always that I'd believe it when I saw it. Same applies here. I'll believe it when I see it.
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I guess I have to disagree. Not that I enjoy riding on CRJ-200s by any means, but... they're far from the oldest planes when compared against the rest of the DL/DC fleet (some of the newest until 2016ish, and now probably middle of the pack for age). Lots of them rolled off the line in the mid 2000s. Seen better days in what respect? That they haven't gotten hard-padded seats like the new interior'ed 737s have that are from the late 90s? Or the 320s that are from the early 90s? Frankly, I'll take the soft-padded slightly worn seats. Not to start a fruitless debate, but my beef with the CRJ200 revolves more around it's inability to put most standard carry-ons in the overhead bin and it's notorious weight and balance issues.
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I'll preface by saying, I'm not contesting the validity of the announcement by any means. Also no intent to derail the thread. However. In 2012 I started ground handling for DC flights in a CRJ-200 only station. My supervisor at the time swore to me (and I believe it had been announced then, too) that the "CRJ-200s were being retired by 2013." My response was always that I'd believe it when I saw it. Same applies here. I'll believe it when I see it.
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 5, 2021 at 6:23 pm
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The DL commitment was to reduce the number of 50-seaters from 343 in 2012 down to 125 frames. There was never any mention of completely eliminating them by DL management back then. They eventually hit the 125 mark in 2018 and have continued to reduce them since. They ended 2020 with a meager 54 aircraft.
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Removing the “focus city” moniker may not actually mean much on-the-ground change. The concept is nebulous at best, combining some level of extra service on top of a normal spoke with an elevated sales presence to match strong local growth.
The whole Bay Area lags the rest of the country on travel right now, so it makes total sense for Delta to prioritize its resources elsewhere for the time being. Once the pandemic ends and the Bay Area gets back to life, I think it's a safe assumption that SJC will be back on Delta's (and others') radar for growth given the underlying strength of the Silicon Valley market.
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GE pretty much has demanded this route in the past. Gotta think it will continue. GE and P&G have a LOT of influence in Cincy matters.