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Delta Quarantine Free admittance into Europe (Rome/Amsterdam) Consolidated Thread

Delta Quarantine Free admittance into Europe (Rome/Amsterdam) Consolidated Thread

Old Nov 26, 20, 11:45 am
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Delta Quarantine Free admittance into Europe (Rome/Amsterdam) Consolidated Thread

https://news.delta.com/delta-launch-...ting-protocols

Hope this starts by spring 2021. I already have a hotel booked in Venice. Fingers crossed 🤞🤞🤞

"Delta Air Lines, the Aeroporti di Roma and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport have joined in a first-of-its-kind trans-Atlantic COVID-19 testing program that will enable quarantine-free entry into Italy, in accordance with a decree expected to be issued soon by the government of Italy."
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Old Nov 26, 20, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by Global Adventurer View Post
https://news.delta.com/delta-launch-...ting-protocols

Hope this starts by spring 2021. I already have a hotel booked in Venice. Fingers crossed 🤞🤞🤞

"Delta Air Lines, the Aeroporti di Roma and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport have joined in a first-of-its-kind trans-Atlantic COVID-19 testing program that will enable quarantine-free entry into Italy, in accordance with a decree expected to be issued soon by the government of Italy."
Unless you are an EU citizen or fall into one of the allowed categories, Italy would still need to drop its entrance requirements by then. Which hopefully will happen sooner than later.
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Old Nov 26, 20, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler View Post
Unless you are an EU citizen or fall into one of the allowed categories, Italy would still need to drop its entrance requirements by then. Which hopefully will happen sooner than later.
Yes, as a US citizen you still must be travelling for an essential reason...but, it is a positive step.

https://www.ft.com/content/4b590ce0-...b-63dc855f297f
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Old Nov 26, 20, 12:47 pm
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I don't get how this is a "first of its kind" thing? Hasn't Air France been doing this throughout the pandemic? I never have to quarantine when I fly from the US to France.
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Old Nov 26, 20, 10:51 pm
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It's a smoke and mirrors move, tbh. Routine business and leisure travel will not be considered safe (and worthwhile) enough to return to normal-ish traffic levels until vaccines are in wide circulation.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 5:47 am
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I don't get how this is a "first of its kind" thing? Hasn't Air France been doing this throughout the pandemic? I never have to quarantine when I fly from the US to France.
Same...I too am a bit confused.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 8:33 am
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It may be be first for this carrier and this route, but there are numerous other examples whereby a negative pre-flight test eliminates or reduces a quarantine requirement (or indeed permits entry). But, this should not be confused with admissibility. Hopefully the Italian & US governments will reach an "air corridor" agreement which permits both admission and quarantine waiver for those presenting a negative test. Even more hopefully this will become the norm. Even more, more hopefully, acceptable protocols can be worked out so that every jurisdiction does not impose its own oddities to what is a valid test.

As it stands and whether required or not, it is sensible for any passenger to obtain a negative result prior to significant travel. Putting aside all of the general considerations and looking at this as a purely selfish matter, becoming ill, isolated and possibly hosptialized far from home is the only thing worse than become ill, isolated and possible hospitalized anywhere.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 8:47 am
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​​Hopefully the Italian & US governments will reach an "air corridor" agreement which permits both admission and quarantine waiver for those presenting a negative test. Even more hopefully this will become the norm.
That's exactly what I think the new agreement will mean. But, we'll find out soon enough.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 10:56 am
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Meh, let me know when there's no restrictions on who can enter and it may be interesting. Otherwise this is pretty much useless for the vast majority of people.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by nerdbirdsjc View Post
It's a smoke and mirrors move, tbh. Routine business and leisure travel will not be considered safe (and worthwhile) enough to return to normal-ish traffic levels until vaccines are in wide circulation.
Good news is a vaccine should be widely available here in the U.S. by next Spring.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 11:22 am
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Good news is a vaccine should be widely available here in the U.S. by next Spring.
The EU is programmed to have a mass rollout of 2nd generation vaccines in the springtime too.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 12:09 pm
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Given the unreliability of current tests, maybe this will turn into “medical theater”, similar to how some here consider the TSA to be “security theater”.

Regardless, can’t wait until I can freely travel again. This is probably the longest period in about 30 years that I have not set foot in CDG. And yeah, I miss it
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Old Nov 27, 20, 12:11 pm
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Unreliability?

Those rapid tests in the US err on the side of false positive, not negative. While that may be disappointing for some, it is hardly dangerous.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 12:17 pm
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Unreliability?

Those rapid tests in the US err on the side of false positive, not negative. While that may be disappointing for some, it is hardly dangerous.
Depends on the test being used. I know quite a number of people who got sick, tested negative several times before testing positive. I do not know the details of the type of test, manufacturer, etc.
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Old Nov 27, 20, 6:28 pm
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The tests all have their flaws. It is what it is. I am not sure you can test your way to absolute "safety" with this, but vaccination should provide the impetus to open things up. And with all the companies involved, I think a substantial number will have had it before spring.

Pfizer alone is on target to have 50 million doses (enough for 25 million people) by the end of the year.

My question is whether anyone, anywhere has come up with a plan to document the vaccination status in the passport profile, to prevent having to produce some sort of piece of paper that might easily vary from country to country.
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