DLASflyer

Delta Air Lines and its pilot union have reached an agreement to avoid furloughs until at least 2022. If ratified, not a single Delta employee will be furloughed this year or next. American and United have already furloughed a combined 32,000 employees.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/delt...ntil-2022.html

Hepsaint

This will be a common trend among some of the other large essential worker unions throughout the country. They maybe short term agreements, but both sides are aware that its not the time for big or even modest increases or benefit demands. Survival past 2022 im sure is on their minds...

flyerCO

Surely you joke. Unions not making big demands even if the company is at stake? This is funny.

clubord

Not quite sure what’s funny?

In my airplane and base we’ve taken nearly a 50% paycut since January with the AIP negotiated by ALPA trying to keep the airline solvent.

I get the anti-union narrative and believe me I am not a huge ALPA fan myself. However, throwing some definitive facts into the conversation here seems somewhat applicable.

flyerCO

There's a long history of unions making demands regardless of reality. Im not just picking on airline unions. This also isnt a recent phenomenon.

I forget which exact airline, but one pilot union was quoted as saying they didn't feel they needed to help out. Why? It was because they helped out 10 years ago during last financial crisis. (All other unions also did, and all had since been made whole, and all were willing to do it here)

I remember when a national grocery chain shut down all stores in my area. The union was making demands for ridiculous wages (ridiculous even if company had been in great financial shape).

DL luckily enjoys better relations than most airlines. However a lot of aviation unions don't seem to get the business must be open for them to get paid.

readywhenyouare

Seems to be in name only. I've known a couple of people hired by DL Jan/Feb and have not completed training. So yes, they are essentially furloughed.

DLASflyer

My understanding is a bunch of people who started training but never finished are getting paid not to fly this entire time. Those who never started training were never formally hired. They will be first back in once hiring restarts.

dsftm

In a memo to employees Delta Senior Vice President John Laughter said that the agreement allows the carrier to generate "much needed savings through a path to help avoid furloughs.
The Air Line Pilots Association negotiating committee told members the agreement would provide furlough protection "for every Delta pilot on the seniority list until January 1, 2022."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...furloughs-2022

DLASflyer

Delta, ALPA Reach Agreement to Avoid Pilot Furloughs