Should Delta revert back to Medallion status earnings by BIS miles or segments?
Oct 15, 20, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by The Situation
. I think AA's earnings table was fair. I would assume I would probably drop down to GM if DL matches those earning requirements, and I would be okay with that since I probably would not feel too much of a loss in benefits given how many are in similar circumstances.
Oct 30, 20, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
For those who get the AmEx spend waiver, like me, up through PM the rollover of all MQMs helps quite a bit. As it stands now, I'll be starting 2021 with enough MQMs for at least GM for 2022 (possibly PM but that may be a stretch - will depend if I hit the second AmEx boost) without even stepping foot on a DL plane. Once I get the AmEx spend boost in 2021 for $30K in spend in that calendar year, I'll be at PM for 2022, and that's without even setting foot on a plane (I hope that's not the case - I hope I get back to travel by next Spring/Summer both for work and personal travel).
Videoconferencing is about a 90% solution but sometimes that last additional 10% is what makes the difference and why in-person/face-to-face is still valuable in many instances. And sometimes the informal side-bar discussions that come with in-person/face-to-face meetings are where some of the most important things are discussed, which is why there will always be a need for some in-person and face-to-face meetings. Same thing at conferences and trade-shows, which is why I see those coming back. Yea, the main presentations can all be viewed via the web but the planned and unplanned interactions off to the side that occur can't be replicated via teleconferencing.
Videoconferencing is about a 90% solution but sometimes that last additional 10% is what makes the difference and why in-person/face-to-face is still valuable in many instances. And sometimes the informal side-bar discussions that come with in-person/face-to-face meetings are where some of the most important things are discussed, which is why there will always be a need for some in-person and face-to-face meetings. Same thing at conferences and trade-shows, which is why I see those coming back. Yea, the main presentations can all be viewed via the web but the planned and unplanned interactions off to the side that occur can't be replicated via teleconferencing.
Oct 30, 20, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by Christefan
There is no PQD waiver for DM status renewal (unless you consider the $250k Amex waiver), which again makes the MQM rollover useless.
But again, if just because rollover is useless for you as a DM, that doesn't make it useless for me or others as a PM (or GM or FO). As noted, because of DL's rollover policy this year, and then throw in next year's AmEx boosts, plus the current MQM AmEx bonus program, and now I'll be a PM for 2022 even if I don't set a foot on a DL aircraft in 2021. So the rollover isn't useless to me and many others, even if it's useless to you.
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Oct 30, 20, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Christefan
There is no PQD waiver for DM status renewal (unless you consider the $250k Amex waiver), which again makes the MQM rollover useless.
Oct 30, 20, 7:08 pm
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Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
They do/did on the Barclay Aviation Silver and used to on another card but the Silver card isn't open to new applications.
But the current fixed target is the baseline/status quo anyway. Whether someone is 6K MQDs short or only 3K MQDs short for PM, they can make up the full gap with the current $25K spend waiver. I wonder if more people would put more on the card to if it was required to move up to the next level. Right now, if all you care about is the MQD waiver but otherwise get enough MQMs that you don't care about additional MQM boosts, there's no incentive to spend beyond $25K and instead one can put that spend on another card for other benefits. A system that gives MQD credits based on reaching certain spend thresholds would encourage plenty of customers to spend more on the card to earn the MQD credits.
But the current fixed target is the baseline/status quo anyway. Whether someone is 6K MQDs short or only 3K MQDs short for PM, they can make up the full gap with the current $25K spend waiver. I wonder if more people would put more on the card to if it was required to move up to the next level. Right now, if all you care about is the MQD waiver but otherwise get enough MQMs that you don't care about additional MQM boosts, there's no incentive to spend beyond $25K and instead one can put that spend on another card for other benefits. A system that gives MQD credits based on reaching certain spend thresholds would encourage plenty of customers to spend more on the card to earn the MQD credits.
As is my work travel has been not much and short of MQD for my first Delta status starting from zero but whatever, can find some dummy flight if I care enough to try to get it before the end of the year and if the carry over for non-status isn’t something. Need to check that, been busy.
Oct 30, 20, 9:34 pm
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I'm now up to 212k MQMs including rollover MQMs; I have only 13k more to go to secure PM status in 2022, 2023 and 2024 (assuming I spend $25k per year on my AMEX Reserve card, which I will). I'll be 70 years old in January, 2025. I'll pretty much be done with flying by then (I've committed to clients to keep working through 2022, but will probably gradually retire after that).
I've done 66k BIS MQMs in 2020, which is not bad considering I've had no international travel this year, and have another 30k this year from the reserve card (this is the first year I've had this card).
I'd love to be DM one more time, but I can't do the $15k within a 12 month period. For selfish reasons, I wish they would abandon the MQD requirement and let me apply my MQMs to DM status.
I've done 66k BIS MQMs in 2020, which is not bad considering I've had no international travel this year, and have another 30k this year from the reserve card (this is the first year I've had this card).
I'd love to be DM one more time, but I can't do the $15k within a 12 month period. For selfish reasons, I wish they would abandon the MQD requirement and let me apply my MQMs to DM status.
Oct 30, 20, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ND76
For selfish reasons, I wish they would abandon the MQD requirement and let me apply my MQMs to DM status.
If anything, DL should incentivize spending/flying: (a) spending more on Amex cards (i.e. extend the current offer of 500 miles + MQMs for every $1k spend beyond 12/31/20), (b) offer 2x/3x/4x MQMs + MQDs earning for DL flight purchases, (c) offer flash sales for J and Y cabins for domestic and international flights, and (d) re-introduce in-flight service.
This "bug" is here to stay with us for the foreseeable future, and we have to deal with it safely and smartly.
Oct 31, 20, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
There's no "PQD waiver" for any Medallion level at DL because DL doesn't use "PQDs".
But again, if just because rollover is useless for you as a DM, that doesn't make it useless for me or others as a PM (or GM or FO). As noted, because of DL's rollover policy this year, and then throw in next year's AmEx boosts, plus the current MQM AmEx bonus program, and now I'll be a PM for 2022 even if I don't set a foot on a DL aircraft in 2021. So the rollover isn't useless to me and many others, even if it's useless to you.
But again, if just because rollover is useless for you as a DM, that doesn't make it useless for me or others as a PM (or GM or FO). As noted, because of DL's rollover policy this year, and then throw in next year's AmEx boosts, plus the current MQM AmEx bonus program, and now I'll be a PM for 2022 even if I don't set a foot on a DL aircraft in 2021. So the rollover isn't useless to me and many others, even if it's useless to you.
Oct 31, 20, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
I never understood the benefits of PM or DM status for those who never fly (other than perhaps getting through on the phone line a little quicker to discuss flights that you won’t be taking).
My point is that because if the rollover method DL has implemented, I will still be a PM for 2022 even if I don’t fly at all in 2021 (which is going to be dependent on the COVID situation). And PM status is well worth it. I’m rather tall. Even with minimal flying, PM gets me C+ complimentary, versus having to pay the (sometimes significant) upcharge. Even a few flights a year at $100-$200 saved is significant. There’s also the award redeposit waiver. While this is something I’d be unlikely to pay for if I didn’t have it, again, there’s a significant savings and flexibility piece to be able to play with and re-arrange award tickets.
Nov 27, 20, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by metalblaze
This is not quite true - UA's MileagePlus program is based on higher spend (DL's equivalent of MQDs) or flight's flown (DL's equivalent of MQSs) & lower spend. The thresholds to qualify have been reduced this year due to COVID, but otherwise, I believe the program has worked quite well.
