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Delta to retire its entire Boeing 777 fleet by the end of the year

Delta to retire its entire Boeing 777 fleet by the end of the year

Old May 14, 2020, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
No. Replacing inefficient planes with efficient ones, getting rid of oddball small fleets (777 is the smallest fleet at DL) and consolidating onto a few larger fleets, is the whole point.
Bingo. When you have reduced demand, consolidating your fleet into less models and getting rid of older, high maintenance planes is more cost effective. The fact that they refurbed the 777's recently is of no consequence, as those are sunk costs and do not affect your decision going forward.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:03 am
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This seems likely in a few years:
A220
A320 family
737 family
A330 family
A350

No more 717, 757, 767, 777
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:04 am
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Ugh feel like my flight to Mumbai with Delta is never going to happen. Was in D1 before all the COVID issues started and it got canceled nearly 8 months out so repurchased for April 2021 and then this news. Its crazy and sad to see Delta cutting so many great routes. I personally would love if they switched from JNB to Cape Town to compete with United since I make this trip several times a year and hate having to take the AMS-CPT flight since its a day flight or connecting in JNB where as United has a great arrival and departure times.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:05 am
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Too bad, it sounded like the 77L was one of the nicest rides in the fleet, regardless of what cabin you were in.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by Jeremy3292
Bingo. When you have reduced demand, consolidating your fleet into less models and getting rid of older, high maintenance planes is more cost effective. The fact that they refurbed the 777's recently is of no consequence, as those are sunk costs and do not affect your decision going forward.
Could you share the high maintenance cost with us? Ive never heard that comment about the 777. Especially since American Airlines and United Airlines just ordered a bunch of them a few years ago. United even added another order recently. .
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:06 am
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I flew JFK-ATL in February so I could try the new PE seats; sad to know that was my last 777 flight on Delta.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by FlyinHawaiian
I flew JFK-ATL in February so I could try the new PE seats; sad to know that was my last 777 flight on Delta.
You could have up to 6 months left. No final flight has been announced yet
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:11 am
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I agree this is very surprising for the younger part of the fleet.

Retirement is not always permanent right? Can they be retired in such a way that they can be brought back into use if the situation warrants?
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:12 am
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I will be curious to see if JNB is gone forever, or whether they will return to the old days when it was done with a stop along the way.

Flying to JNB via Europe is a long way out of the way.

I just hate this decision. Like others, the 777 was my favorite plane in the fleet.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
This seems likely in a few years:
A220
A320 family
737 family
A330 family
A350

No more 717, 757, 767, 777
This actually would be a great fleet of aircraft with the one exception of dumping the 737s and keeping the 757s.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by jdrtravel
I agree this is very surprising for the younger part of the fleet.

Retirement is not always permanent right? Can they be retired in such a way that they can be brought back into use if the situation warrants?
Anything is possible. But did you read the official announcement? It seems very clear to me that if things recover much better than expected, that DL will chose to accelerate A350/A330 deliveries rather than bring the 777s out of retirement
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by Robert Leach
I will be curious to see if JNB is gone forever, or whether they will return to the old days when it was done with a stop along the way.

Flying to JNB via Europe is a long way out of the way.

I just hate this decision. Like others, the 777 was my favorite plane in the fleet.
DL could convert some of its A350-900 orders into A350-900ULR and then fly nonstop to JNB. It's essentially the same plane but with a modified fuel system
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
This actually would be a great fleet of aircraft with the one exception of dumping the 737s and keeping the 757s.
I wouldn't rule out Delta offloading the 737 fleet. I could see UA being interested in it. UA's 737 fleet is significantly larger than their A320 fleet and they could replace it with Delta's 739 fleet. If Delta really wants cost efficiencies then they'll have to consolidate to one OEM.
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
I wouldn't rule out Delta offloading the 737 fleet. I could see UA being interested in it. UA's 737 fleet is significantly larger than their A320 fleet and they could replace it with Delta's 739 fleet. If Delta really wants cost efficiencies then they'll have to consolidate to one OEM.
I doubt it. The 739 has very good economics, this is a DL kind of plane. Consolidating to one OEM has limited benefits (actually it reduces your negotiating leverage significantly)
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Old May 14, 2020, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
This seems likely in a few years:
A220
A320 family
737 family
A330 family
A350

No more 717, 757, 767, 777
I agree this seems quite likely. I've noticed a reoccurring theme at DL that they really want to consolidate the fleet types they have (ie, increase fleet commonality). If we're optimistic about the near future, the 767s may be around a little longer (it's a less cramped Y cabin, maybe it'll help with physical distancing?) , but since the 339s are comparable to the 767s, I don't see them sticking around too long.
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