Delta slashing capacity 40% ("the largest capacity reduction in Delta's history)
Mar 13, 2020, 2:46 pm
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And remarkably load factors will still be incredibly low.. but it's probably as much as they can cut the network and still have a viable connecting infrastructure and actually impact cost structure (e.g., what are the contractual commits to unions?).
Mar 13, 2020, 2:48 pm
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To be clear, every authority is saying not to wear N95 masks because there are not enough and not because they are not effective. N95 masks are effective at reducing (but likely not eliminating) transmission but they are needed most by medical professionals in environments with known exposure.
Surgical masks are useful for those who already have the virus and seek to reduce the spread, but are likely not very effective at preventing the spread other than potentially a subliminal reminder to not touch your face.
Surgical masks are useful for those who already have the virus and seek to reduce the spread, but are likely not very effective at preventing the spread other than potentially a subliminal reminder to not touch your face.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:02 pm
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We're getting dangerously off-topic here, but South Korea has been heralded as a great example of wide-scale testing which reduces the undercounting phenomenom. You can read this to see the death rates there. Even with a non-overhwelmed healthcare, the death rate for 70+ is 5%. You see nearly identical numbers on the Diamond Princess which had a 100% testing rate and had people onboard healthy enough to take a cruise.
This is not just "the flu". It is both more contagious and significantly more deadly - at a minimum it is 10x more deadly, and that is without an overwhelmed healthcare system. Throw an overwhelmed healthcare system where even basic treatment like extra oxygen is not available and I can guarantee you that the death rate skyrockets. 10-20% of cases require hospitalization; of that subset, likely 5%+ would die without medical treatment. We manage to reduce a 5% death rate to a 1% deathrate because we are able to provide medical care. Uncontrolled spread means that benefit of modern medicine goes away.
This is not just "the flu". It is both more contagious and significantly more deadly - at a minimum it is 10x more deadly, and that is without an overwhelmed healthcare system. Throw an overwhelmed healthcare system where even basic treatment like extra oxygen is not available and I can guarantee you that the death rate skyrockets. 10-20% of cases require hospitalization; of that subset, likely 5%+ would die without medical treatment. We manage to reduce a 5% death rate to a 1% deathrate because we are able to provide medical care. Uncontrolled spread means that benefit of modern medicine goes away.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:03 pm
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/o...effective.html
Mar 13, 2020, 3:06 pm
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Yep. I imagine there will be a lot more waiting around in airports waiting for connecting flights as frequencies are reduced.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:09 pm
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They’ve been there. Just flew out of TPA on a MD90 a few weeks ago. The 717s are common. 88s less common these days but they pop up every so often.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:17 pm
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How about you contact the nursing home in Kirkland, WA and ask how many residents died from Influenza A and B this year vs. how many died from coronavirus. I suspect they will tell you few to none from influenza A and B thanks to this yearly thing we call a vaccine. People vulnerable to the flu usually get the vaccine.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:22 pm
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This is not just "the flu". It is both more contagious and significantly more deadly - at a minimum it is 10x more deadly, and that is without an overwhelmed healthcare system. Throw an overwhelmed healthcare system where even basic treatment like extra oxygen is not available and I can guarantee you that the death rate skyrockets. 10-20% of cases require hospitalization; of that subset, likely 5%+ would die without medical treatment. We manage to reduce a 5% death rate to a 1% deathrate because we are able to provide medical care. Uncontrolled spread means that benefit of modern medicine goes away.
Also people who do not die but recover may be left with permanently decreased lung function (lung fibrosis) or damage to other organs (e.g. kidneys).
Mar 13, 2020, 3:26 pm
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Mar 13, 2020, 3:29 pm
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I figured it was going to get worse because cutting the non-authorized European ports of entry (MCO-AMS, CVG-CDG, etc) wasn't going to be enough.
Ed's note to all Delta people is officially on the Delta website.
Ed's note to all Delta people is officially on the Delta website.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:30 pm
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The CDC is projecting that between 160 million and 210 million people will contract the disease, and further that between 200,000 and 1.7 million people will die. This isn't media scaremongering — this is epidemiology. Research shows that this is the worst illness since the 1918 Spanish flu — slightly less deadly, slightly more transmittable.
So, in the most extreme data you provided, the increase is less than 3% increase for a year. (It’s about 90% less deadly than the 10th leading cause of death - automobiles.)
That’s a rounding error. It’s the margin of error for something we honestly should not even thinking about.
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see, when you put it in context at how big the world is, you see how tiny this virus is, and how it’s honestly the least deadly thing to happen to humans in decades.
But here we are: keyboard warriors demanding justice by shutting down the world economy - which will hurt and kill millions. So they don’t get the sniffles.
THAT is shameful.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:34 pm
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Chance of a lifetime? Yeah, if you are dead from travel acquired Covid-19.
I would consider each trip very carefully. I would not have a personal ban on travel. However, I would factor in the chance of Covid-19 death. A possible conclusion is to reduce city travels (where restaurants and museums are a major component) and do more countryside travels (where outdoor wonders, possibly by rental car) is more prevalent. For example, it may be an excellent time to see Mesa Verde instead of Berlin.
Mar 13, 2020, 3:43 pm
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I wish every single thread didn't go off the rails... scrolling through all these same argument posts over and over just to see relevant discussion. Forget the virus I am getting sick from the reactions on both sides of the debate and just want to move forward with life whatever that looks like.
Anyway regarding the 40% cut and Schedule Change Saturday... when does the Saturday thing normally get "finished" so to speak. Trying to figure out when to get my hopes up. My Tuesday flight still shows on time and is still available for sale... for now. Figure my GM 3 day upgrades will clear then flight will disappear.
I won't really get my hopes up until I sit in the seat... but just curious about Saturday. Haven't paid much attention to that until now.
Anyway regarding the 40% cut and Schedule Change Saturday... when does the Saturday thing normally get "finished" so to speak. Trying to figure out when to get my hopes up. My Tuesday flight still shows on time and is still available for sale... for now. Figure my GM 3 day upgrades will clear then flight will disappear.
I won't really get my hopes up until I sit in the seat... but just curious about Saturday. Haven't paid much attention to that until now.