Europe Travel Ban due to COVID-19 (Consolidated Thread)
Mar 11, 2020, 10:10 pm
#46
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These new entry restrictions apply to the Schengen countries; Ireland is not a Schengen country.
Mar 11, 2020, 10:25 pm
#47
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In Montreal, If you flight to USA, you pass the custom there (at Montreal).
US Border agent will ask you if you have travel in Europe in the last 14 day.
If you say no, and it is not truth, you can be ban to enter USA for a veryyyyyyy long time.
Do not forget, USA and Canada exchange flight passengers informations...
US Border agent will ask you if you have travel in Europe in the last 14 day.
If you say no, and it is not truth, you can be ban to enter USA for a veryyyyyyy long time.
Do not forget, USA and Canada exchange flight passengers informations...
Mar 11, 2020, 11:02 pm
#48
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Yes for the EU nationals —and indeed it would be difficult for them proving that they've been outside of the Schengen space, say, in the UK, because they don't get stamps and can enter with their national IDs. As for the EU residents, it is not so straighforward.
If you are from a country that does not require a visa to enter (most of Latin America, some Asian), and you are a resident, you don't have a visa, nor do you get a stamp to enter or exit. This is my case: Peruvian citizen (no visa required, and resident card), with no entry stamp to the EU for the last year. I have entered/exited the US 3 times, and Peru as well, so there is a lot of stamps, plus the ones from 2016-2019. This type of cases, which are fairly common, might be difficult to be detected. Are agents going to be expected to check and match entries and exits to determine that someone's stamps do not make sense and probably were in Europe?
If you are from a country that does not require a visa to enter (most of Latin America, some Asian), and you are a resident, you don't have a visa, nor do you get a stamp to enter or exit. This is my case: Peruvian citizen (no visa required, and resident card), with no entry stamp to the EU for the last year. I have entered/exited the US 3 times, and Peru as well, so there is a lot of stamps, plus the ones from 2016-2019. This type of cases, which are fairly common, might be difficult to be detected. Are agents going to be expected to check and match entries and exits to determine that someone's stamps do not make sense and probably were in Europe?
CBP doesn't have to check every stamp. They just need to check for stamps dated within last 14 days. CBP also doesn't need proof. All they need is a suspicion. Burden of proof is on passenger applying for entry.
In any case, as indicated in prior post, the thread title is not correct. Flights are not being banned. Passengers are.
Mar 11, 2020, 11:06 pm
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Mar 11, 2020, 11:15 pm
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•Atlanta (Georgia state): Hartsfield-Jackson International (ATL).
•Boston (Massachusetts state): Boston Logan International (BOS).
•Chicago (Illinois state): O’Hare International (ORD).
•Dallas (Texas state): Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW).
•Detroit (Michigan state): Detroit Metropolitan (DTW).
•El Paso (Texas state): El Paso International (ELP).
•Honolulu (Hawaii state): Daniel K Inouye International (HNL).
•Houston (Texas state): George Bush Intercontinental (IAH).
•Los Angeles (California state): Los Angeles International (LAX).
•Miami (Florida state): Miami International (MIA).
•Minneapolis (Minnesota state): Minneapolis-St. Paul International (MSP).
•Newark (New Jersey state) Newark Liberty International (EWR).
•New York City (New York state): John F Kennedy International (JFK).
•Philadelphia (Pennsylvania state): Philadelphia International (PHL).
•San Diego (California state): San Diego International (SAN).
•San Francisco (California state): San Francisco International (SFO).
•San Juan (Puerto Rico state): San Juan Luis Munoz Marin International (SJU).
•Seattle (Washington state): Seattle-Tacoma International (SEA).
•Virginia state: Washington Dulles International (IAD).
Source: CDC
Mar 11, 2020, 11:21 pm
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In his address, Dear Leader said only "UK was exempted" and also said cargo was included in the ban. Both of these and the bit about US citizens were exempt came in written clarifications. So news reports based on the speech itself appear to be off, but that is not the media's fault...
Mar 12, 2020, 12:03 am
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•Anchorage (Alaska state): Ted Stevens Anchorage International (ANC).
•Atlanta (Georgia state): Hartsfield-Jackson International (ATL).
•Boston (Massachusetts state): Boston Logan International (BOS).
•Chicago (Illinois state): O’Hare International (ORD).
•Dallas (Texas state): Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW).
•Detroit (Michigan state): Detroit Metropolitan (DTW).
•El Paso (Texas state): El Paso International (ELP).
•Honolulu (Hawaii state): Daniel K Inouye International (HNL).
•Houston (Texas state): George Bush Intercontinental (IAH).
•Los Angeles (California state): Los Angeles International (LAX).
•Miami (Florida state): Miami International (MIA).
•Minneapolis (Minnesota state): Minneapolis-St. Paul International (MSP).
•Newark (New Jersey state) Newark Liberty International (EWR).
•New York City (New York state): John F Kennedy International (JFK).
•Philadelphia (Pennsylvania state): Philadelphia International (PHL).
•San Diego (California state): San Diego International (SAN).
•San Francisco (California state): San Francisco International (SFO).
•San Juan (Puerto Rico state): San Juan Luis Munoz Marin International (SJU).
•Seattle (Washington state): Seattle-Tacoma International (SEA).
•Virginia state: Washington Dulles International (IAD).
Source: CDC
•Atlanta (Georgia state): Hartsfield-Jackson International (ATL).
•Boston (Massachusetts state): Boston Logan International (BOS).
•Chicago (Illinois state): O’Hare International (ORD).
•Dallas (Texas state): Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW).
•Detroit (Michigan state): Detroit Metropolitan (DTW).
•El Paso (Texas state): El Paso International (ELP).
•Honolulu (Hawaii state): Daniel K Inouye International (HNL).
•Houston (Texas state): George Bush Intercontinental (IAH).
•Los Angeles (California state): Los Angeles International (LAX).
•Miami (Florida state): Miami International (MIA).
•Minneapolis (Minnesota state): Minneapolis-St. Paul International (MSP).
•Newark (New Jersey state) Newark Liberty International (EWR).
•New York City (New York state): John F Kennedy International (JFK).
•Philadelphia (Pennsylvania state): Philadelphia International (PHL).
•San Diego (California state): San Diego International (SAN).
•San Francisco (California state): San Francisco International (SFO).
•San Juan (Puerto Rico state): San Juan Luis Munoz Marin International (SJU).
•Seattle (Washington state): Seattle-Tacoma International (SEA).
•Virginia state: Washington Dulles International (IAD).
Source: CDC
Mar 12, 2020, 12:14 am
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Surprised not to see LAS (18th busiest US airport for intl traffic) and MCO (13th). Maybe most of that international traffic is inbound and won't be admissible anyway? No FLL too, but that makes more sense with cruise traffic down so much and the Caribbean/Latin American focus.
I have flights for mid April to/from AMS. It's just in the edge of 30 days so maybe I'm fine. We'll see. Better book refundable hotels in the mean time.
Mar 12, 2020, 1:50 am
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Mar 12, 2020, 2:27 am
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My ticket is on DL, so it was easy for them to re-route the DL SEA-ICN-MNL on a DL/KL combo via AMS to MNL. I suppose I can still fly VS to LHR from SEA, but then with no SkyTeam connection onwards to MNL.
Mar 12, 2020, 2:32 am
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Neither the U.K. or the Republic are part of Schengen (just like Cyprus and a couple of others) and that appears to be the main driver of this and the obsession with ‘open borders’ as though that stops a virus from spreading
.there was never a cat in hells chance of the U.K. ever joining Schengen.
Indeed the U.K. - RoI common travel area proceeds Schengen and even the entry of both countries into what was then called the EEC
Mar 12, 2020, 3:15 am
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The title of this thread is misleading. It's NOT a ban on flights; it's a ban on persons from entry into the US who were in Schengen unless they meet exception criteria.
So even if you fly to UK or another 3rd country but your passport contains a Schengen stamp or you have a Schengen passport, you most likely be affected.
So even if you fly to UK or another 3rd country but your passport contains a Schengen stamp or you have a Schengen passport, you most likely be affected.
Mar 12, 2020, 3:48 am
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Mar 12, 2020, 5:19 am
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Unfortunately the travel ban isn't going to do anything to curb the virus spread, since it is already widespread in the US and has been for weeks. We're just getting around to detecting it now since the testing capability is finally there.
All the ban will do is amplify the negative business and economic impact, and strand US and EU citizens on opposite sides of the ocean.
All the ban will do is amplify the negative business and economic impact, and strand US and EU citizens on opposite sides of the ocean.