DL gates in DEN
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Wouldnt be surprised if DL do some gate squatting much like they are at DAL.
I'm not opining as to an opinion re: who's entitled to the gates, just noting that squatting has worked well before for them
I'm not opining as to an opinion re: who's entitled to the gates, just noting that squatting has worked well before for them
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How exactly do they do that, if you don't mind me asking?
You certainly wont see Delta lose gates/leave DEN etc. The airport forcing them to do so would be incredibly illegal.
I don't think that UA will be able gain control of all of the existing gates right away. I could see them getting the new gates first and once the C Concourse extension opens up, DL will probably have to move back to C and UA can then take control over the existing gates. They're just isn't really enough room on the other side of A with AA and F9 for DL to stay on A if UA does indeed get existing gates on A.
and I'm not sure there is a place for a club on C.
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EDIT: Correction. Per another FT's later post, PreCheck is there until late morning.
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You can take your arrogance and shove it out a Southwest window.
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I said might. My point was to reassure that current flights will still continue, even if need to juggle times a bit due to only having say five gates.
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The status quo on A has variability since it handles all international arrivals (excluding airports with border preclearance).
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Correct, no one is going to be expelled, no one is going to lose flights. However the number of gates they get to use may be different. (I doubt it will be less, but if it is it'll be because airline can accommodate current flights using one less gate. They wont lose a gate if it results in them having to cut flights)
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https://www.tsa.gov/precheck/schedule
Put in your day and hours, you'll see when the bridge PreCheck is open. Try Friday, 8-9 AM.
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It's there, just open only early morning. I've certainly used it for early morning flights.
https://www.tsa.gov/precheck/schedule
Put in your day and hours, you'll see when the bridge PreCheck is open. Try Friday, 8-9 AM.
https://www.tsa.gov/precheck/schedule
Put in your day and hours, you'll see when the bridge PreCheck is open. Try Friday, 8-9 AM.
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There is a lot of ambiguity in how the DEN concourse expansions and gate allocations are going to play out since UA and WN have basically requested as many of the new gates as possible.
The phasing and timing may factor in how this all plays out.
Short answer is that DL is not going to reduce their operation in DEN. The airport isn't dumb enough to say sorry DL no gates left for you.
They are likely either to move to another section of A or they may move back out to C. Nothing has been made public,
The SkyClub is really a non-issue too. On the first hand, while functional.,its a pretty spartan and generic club as it is now and its using one-third of what was originally to be a CO Presidents Club that has been split three ways into an Admirals Club, USO Club, and DL SkyClub with shared restrooms for all three.
If DL is forced to relocate, part of the negotiation is likely to be for the airport (and perhaps indirectly UA or WN) to pay all the relocation costs, and build-out of a new SkyClub if say DL has to move out to C.
DEN airport is kind of a hot mess with all the construction these days. The train overcrowding situation has gotten pretty bad at peak times.
As said, the A Bridge Precheck is only open in the mornings. Supposedly once all the construction is done, the A security checkpoint is going to move to the terminal side of the bridge as always have PreCheck open. That is still a little while out and who knows if DL will still be on A then, or booted out to C.
The phasing and timing may factor in how this all plays out.
Short answer is that DL is not going to reduce their operation in DEN. The airport isn't dumb enough to say sorry DL no gates left for you.
They are likely either to move to another section of A or they may move back out to C. Nothing has been made public,
The SkyClub is really a non-issue too. On the first hand, while functional.,its a pretty spartan and generic club as it is now and its using one-third of what was originally to be a CO Presidents Club that has been split three ways into an Admirals Club, USO Club, and DL SkyClub with shared restrooms for all three.
If DL is forced to relocate, part of the negotiation is likely to be for the airport (and perhaps indirectly UA or WN) to pay all the relocation costs, and build-out of a new SkyClub if say DL has to move out to C.
DEN airport is kind of a hot mess with all the construction these days. The train overcrowding situation has gotten pretty bad at peak times.
As said, the A Bridge Precheck is only open in the mornings. Supposedly once all the construction is done, the A security checkpoint is going to move to the terminal side of the bridge as always have PreCheck open. That is still a little while out and who knows if DL will still be on A then, or booted out to C.
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The Cranky Flier Blog had a post on the expansion a few weeks ago:
https://crankyflier.com/2020/01/13/s...tes-in-denver/
https://crankyflier.com/2020/01/13/s...tes-in-denver/
http://cnee.colostate.edu/wp-content...EN_InfoMap.pdf
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There is a lot of ambiguity in how the DEN concourse expansions and gate allocations are going to play out since UA and WN have basically requested as many of the new gates as possible.
The phasing and timing may factor in how this all plays out.
Short answer is that DL is not going to reduce their operation in DEN. The airport isn't dumb enough to say sorry DL no gates left for you.
They are likely either to move to another section of A or they may move back out to C. Nothing has been made public,
The SkyClub is really a non-issue too. On the first hand, while functional.,its a pretty spartan and generic club as it is now and its using one-third of what was originally to be a CO Presidents Club that has been split three ways into an Admirals Club, USO Club, and DL SkyClub with shared restrooms for all three.
If DL is forced to relocate, part of the negotiation is likely to be for the airport (and perhaps indirectly UA or WN) to pay all the relocation costs, and build-out of a new SkyClub if say DL has to move out to C.
DEN airport is kind of a hot mess with all the construction these days. The train overcrowding situation has gotten pretty bad at peak times.
As said, the A Bridge Precheck is only open in the mornings. Supposedly once all the construction is done, the A security checkpoint is going to move to the terminal side of the bridge as always have PreCheck open. That is still a little while out and who knows if DL will still be on A then, or booted out to C.
The phasing and timing may factor in how this all plays out.
Short answer is that DL is not going to reduce their operation in DEN. The airport isn't dumb enough to say sorry DL no gates left for you.
They are likely either to move to another section of A or they may move back out to C. Nothing has been made public,
The SkyClub is really a non-issue too. On the first hand, while functional.,its a pretty spartan and generic club as it is now and its using one-third of what was originally to be a CO Presidents Club that has been split three ways into an Admirals Club, USO Club, and DL SkyClub with shared restrooms for all three.
If DL is forced to relocate, part of the negotiation is likely to be for the airport (and perhaps indirectly UA or WN) to pay all the relocation costs, and build-out of a new SkyClub if say DL has to move out to C.
DEN airport is kind of a hot mess with all the construction these days. The train overcrowding situation has gotten pretty bad at peak times.
As said, the A Bridge Precheck is only open in the mornings. Supposedly once all the construction is done, the A security checkpoint is going to move to the terminal side of the bridge as always have PreCheck open. That is still a little while out and who knows if DL will still be on A then, or booted out to C.