3rd Time’s the Charm? DL 559 Returned to gate twice so far....
Feb 14, 2020, 9:00 am
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3rd Time’s the Charm? DL 559 Returned to gate twice so far....
DL 559 ATL-SJU on an A330-300 (!) which is cool. Less cool: after departure and doors closed, had to return and offload 2-3 pax who “didn’t have an open seat.”
Departed again, got in queue for take off. Then left the queue and were told we were returning to the gate for “weight and balance discrepancies”... now they’ve said we should end up about 90 min late. Luckily I’m in 2J so will still enjoy the flight but this is a first!
Wish us luck that we won’t return again to the gate for a 4th/5th departure!
Departed again, got in queue for take off. Then left the queue and were told we were returning to the gate for “weight and balance discrepancies”... now they’ve said we should end up about 90 min late. Luckily I’m in 2J so will still enjoy the flight but this is a first!
Wish us luck that we won’t return again to the gate for a 4th/5th departure!
Feb 14, 2020, 9:52 am
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Pax emerges from the lavatory as the plane is pushing back and tada - back to the gate.
Feb 14, 2020, 9:57 am
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Yes I overheard 3 pax didn’t have seats. So we went back and someone or a few got off (?) and then we left again. Not sure how they closed the door without the head count/ everyone seated- that delay only took about 20’ min— the weight and balance was more like an hour— but in the air now. About 80 min late. Should still get some beach time today in SJU!
Feb 14, 2020, 10:02 am
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Yes I overheard 3 pax didn’t have seats. So we went back and someone or a few got off (?) and then we left again. Not sure how they closed the door without the head count/ everyone seated- that delay only took about 20’ min— the weight and balance was more like an hour— but in the air now. About 80 min late. Should still get some beach time today in SJU!
Feb 14, 2020, 10:04 am
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Happened to me once before too. Pax was in the bathroom when they did the count, then another pax moved into that pax seat to sit with his/her friend, GA/FA see one open seat and load on a standby at the very last moment.
Pax emerges from the lavatory as the plane is pushing back and tada - back to the gate.
Pax emerges from the lavatory as the plane is pushing back and tada - back to the gate.
Feb 14, 2020, 10:18 am
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DL5691 13 Feb didn't quite get that far
my son's JFK-RIC flight boarded close to on time for 0955 departure, but flight crew had a landing gear warning light that they couldn't resolve, so they decided to cycle power which meant everyone had to disembark (seems a bit odd, but they're in charge ...this was ~1030); reloaded pax ~1145 and the same thing happened
maintenance couldn't change the sensor without putting the airplane on jacks, so they had to tow it off to the hangar ... eventually ops found another jet, and they finally left ~1500
maintenance couldn't change the sensor without putting the airplane on jacks, so they had to tow it off to the hangar ... eventually ops found another jet, and they finally left ~1500
Feb 14, 2020, 10:09 pm
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Yes I overheard 3 pax didn’t have seats. So we went back and someone or a few got off (?) and then we left again. Not sure how they closed the door without the head count/ everyone seated- that delay only took about 20’ min— the weight and balance was more like an hour— but in the air now. About 80 min late. Should still get some beach time today in SJU!
Feb 15, 2020, 12:02 am
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Happened to me once before too. Pax was in the bathroom when they did the count, then another pax moved into that pax seat to sit with his/her friend, GA/FA see one open seat and load on a standby at the very last moment.
Pax emerges from the lavatory as the plane is pushing back and tada - back to the gate.
Pax emerges from the lavatory as the plane is pushing back and tada - back to the gate.
I will be completely honest. If I'm on the ground I am either going at the airport or I am holding it till the seat belt sign is off for this reason.
Feb 15, 2020, 12:39 am
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Feb 15, 2020, 9:23 am
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They were using door 2 to board, and I was in 2J nursing my 9am sparkling wine 🥂 so I’m not sure of the details. This only contributed 20-30 min of the 90 min delay. But I will say that, after the extra pax issues, when weight and balance discrepancies aren’t checked until we are in queue for take off, that’s showing me a bit of a mess at ATL. My pilot friend said 3 pax wouldn’t make much difference on a full A330 that can fly 10 hours, departing on a 3 hours flight. But maybe YMMV.
Feb 15, 2020, 12:26 pm
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This is puzzling, where were these people located during pushback/taxi? Even if someone went to the lav after boarding but before pushing back surely they would have gone to their seat first...just seems really odd that 2-3 people would head directly to the bathroom before their seat and only realize that someone else was in their seats after you leave the gate also you'd think that that the gate someone/computer would have noticed they scanned/boarded X pax for Y seats where X>Y.
Feb 15, 2020, 1:57 pm
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This is puzzling, where were these people located during pushback/taxi? Even if someone went to the lav after boarding but before pushing back surely they would have gone to their seat first...just seems really odd that 2-3 people would head directly to the bathroom before their seat and only realize that someone else was in their seats after you leave the gate also you'd think that that the gate someone/computer would have noticed they scanned/boarded X pax for Y seats where X>Y.