Understanding fare classes on Delta
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Understanding fare classes on Delta
I've spent some time on various sources of fare class information, but what puzzles me, is that that some of the fare classes in use seem to be redundant.
For example on an up coming trip a I have "I" on ATL-SCL, and "C" on the return of SCL-ATL. It looks like the MQM earnings is the same, and I can't find any other differences.
What are the differences? Where can that information be found? And if there are no differences, why does Delta use redundant fare classes?
For example on an up coming trip a I have "I" on ATL-SCL, and "C" on the return of SCL-ATL. It looks like the MQM earnings is the same, and I can't find any other differences.
What are the differences? Where can that information be found? And if there are no differences, why does Delta use redundant fare classes?
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Not an expert by any means, but I think it's generally used for "fare buckets" in which each might have 9 tickets available at certain prices. A flight could have J9, I9, C9, Z9 and once all Z fares are sold (at the same price) they sell the next fare at a higher price. That's why C and I tickets have same earnings but their difference would be price - based on the other being sold out.
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I've spent some time on various sources of fare class information, but what puzzles me, is that that some of the fare classes in use seem to be redundant.
For example on an up coming trip a I have "I" on ATL-SCL, and "C" on the return of SCL-ATL. It looks like the MQM earnings is the same, and I can't find any other differences.
What are the differences? Where can that information be found? And if there are no differences, why does Delta use redundant fare classes?
For example on an up coming trip a I have "I" on ATL-SCL, and "C" on the return of SCL-ATL. It looks like the MQM earnings is the same, and I can't find any other differences.
What are the differences? Where can that information be found? And if there are no differences, why does Delta use redundant fare classes?
#4
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If you are asking what various fares earn, the table for Delta flights can be found here -- https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...arn-with-delta
There are five fare classes for business/first flights J, C, D, I, and Z which is generally the order from most costly to cheapest (although there can be overlap). Only J class is considered full fare and earns 200% MQM's. The others earn 150% MQM. There's no class of service bonus for mileage earn. There are typically multiple fare filings for each fare class (although the higher fare classes are the least restrictive and may only have 1 or 2). The lower ones tend to have different restrictions such as advance purchase requirements (cheaper fares generally require they be purchased further in advance) or a roundtrip booking requirement with a Saturday night stay (this is typical of the cheaper Z fares) . The specific fares you purchased are identified by an 8-character fare basis code which can found in the Fare Details: line in the email receipts. You can see all the fares filed on a route with an account on expertflyer.com.
There are five fare classes for business/first flights J, C, D, I, and Z which is generally the order from most costly to cheapest (although there can be overlap). Only J class is considered full fare and earns 200% MQM's. The others earn 150% MQM. There's no class of service bonus for mileage earn. There are typically multiple fare filings for each fare class (although the higher fare classes are the least restrictive and may only have 1 or 2). The lower ones tend to have different restrictions such as advance purchase requirements (cheaper fares generally require they be purchased further in advance) or a roundtrip booking requirement with a Saturday night stay (this is typical of the cheaper Z fares) . The specific fares you purchased are identified by an 8-character fare basis code which can found in the Fare Details: line in the email receipts. You can see all the fares filed on a route with an account on expertflyer.com.
Last edited by xliioper; Jan 27, 2020 at 7:43 am
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As a flyer, there is no functional difference in I and C classes. On the flipside, from the airline/industry/GDS perspective, each fare bucket for each flight and each route contains a multitude of published fares, which have different rules, prices, surcharges, validities, etc. Having the many, many fares that are published for each possible flight/route stratified into buckets (i.e., classes) makes identifying fares according to the hierarchies of price and restrictions slightly easier. Classes are also relevant to flyers in certain circumstances, such as SDC on a domestic coach ticket.
Moreover, some I fares have advanced purchase and minimum stay requirements while C fares generally do not.
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Here is a link to all of DL's fare classes. Pretty good explanation on them.
https://cwsi.net/delta.htm
https://cwsi.net/delta.htm
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Here is a link to all of DL's fare classes. Pretty good explanation on them.
https://cwsi.net/delta.htm
https://cwsi.net/delta.htm
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It is rather out of date. S is now a Comfort+ fare (along with W). Delta no longer users P/A/G for first class since they switched to business class fare codes (J/C/D/I/Z) for all domestic first products. P/A/G are now exclusively aligned to Premium Economy fares.
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I would disagree with this example. While C isn't unrestricted last seat availability, it's generally in most markets a fully flexible and fully refundable without penalty business class fare, unlike the D I Z fares that generally have change fees (typically ranging up to about $500 for TATL/TPAC RTs exUSA, but this depends on the market) and generally aren't refundable (as a credit to the original means of payment).
Moreover, some I fares have advanced purchase and minimum stay requirements while C fares generally do not.
Moreover, some I fares have advanced purchase and minimum stay requirements while C fares generally do not.