vincentharris

As the title says I was thinking that DL is missing out on a revenue stream to have C+ (or even a portion of it) be like European business where the only difference is the middle seat is not used.

honestly this could even be a few rows in regular Y, but a lot of people like me could care less about leg room and would rather be able to stretch to the left and right better.

just curious of others thoughts on this and if anybody else is like me on their preferences?

WillBarrett_68

you can already buy two seats

findark

I would like it, but the CSM to Delta would be much higher than increased legroom (50% per pax, which would be equivalent to normal C+ with 45" pitch). And what I really want is that seat width with a few extra inches of legroom, which is already a product they offer

BenA

There’s really not a lot of incentive for Delta to do this, since there seems to be plenty of demand for C+ seating, even in the middle seats. The extra cost for a blocked middle would be unlikely to compete with half an entire ticket - certainly, if they did this, it would spell the end of complimentary C+ for elites.

Note that eurobusiness does actually come with Comfort+ level legroom on almost all carriers that have implemented it. Even when the divider moves, the first ~9 rows or so of the plane are typically spaced out a few extra inches.

Careful what you wish for - we will probably someday see domestic F cabins replaced entirely by a eurobusiness style product, first appearing on a dense 737 configuration used for flights under 2 hours on the east coast and then spreading within a few years networkwide. I sure hope I’m wrong, but the first class cabin is the part of the domestic product most ripe for “value engineering” in an economic downturn...

What I would love to see is a selective seat blocking tool similar to what LH offers - on relatively empty flights, their booking system blocks seats adjacent to top tier elites unless the plane fills up to the point where they are needed. Delta flights are full enough that we wouldn’t see it used much, but it would make a huge difference on economy long hauls that aren’t too full...

CarmenOM

I would like to see European Business (intra-Europe) be more like US domestic first class.

TommyD2

Yes! Just about to post the same.

Duke787

Please no -- European business is a Y- product with an empty middle saet.

Give me someone in the middle seat but with the extra legroom over the BS that is European business any day of the week.

Often1

An empty middle seat means 2-2 seating rather than 3-3 on a standard mainline single-aisle domestic aircraft. That is 50% fewer seats. Are you prepared to pay that much more when you can likely purchase F for less than that premium?

I'm trying to think of something less likely to happen, but can't right now.

turkeyRIOO

On RJs, there is not even an empty middle seat

Cledaybuck

No. Give me the leg room.

krispy84

A risky move IMO. It could cannibalise F sales if C+ is differentiated further from regular economy. Plus it may be the thin end of the wedge re. the demise of a proper F cabin.

Many of us over here in Europe might like a ‘rest of world’ style intra-Europe business class, but I would bet my shirt on it not happening. Like them or loath them, scaleable J cabins work in Europe.

MarkCron

33% but the point remains. Less seats to sell