lsquare

Thanks guys. I think someone mentioned in the status challenge thread that there wasn't anything definitive on DL's website about this. Do you guys have experience with this or you're just making an educated guess?

Zorak

Not sure it's really worth speculating since you'll presumably be able to give us a firsthand data point in a week or two.

On the other hand this is FT and that's what we do so...

lsquare

Haha, I guess I'll be the DP then. At the same time, this have been happening for years now. I'm surprised there aren't more DPs...

Zorak

Maybe slightly surprising, but not entirely shocking. But as long as we're speculating

First, we can discount people who did a challenge and went on to earn their matched level of status "organically" so the rollover in that case is totally straightforward and not noteworthy.

Of those who are left, also subtract those who didn't earn enough to rollover (maybe started too late in the year to get to 25k despite successful match).

So we're left with people who started the challenge late enough they didn't reach their matched level, but not so late they stayed < 25k who also
- bothered to look at the amount of rollover (maybe the exact amount wasn't a focal point of their travel planning, maybe they were giving DL a trial run and went back to the airline they were familiar with, etc.)
- and are active FT members who know about the thread
- and remembered to go back and post a data point (sometimes people mean to but forget)

andrewk829

Will the rollover be on January 6 or January 8 or January 12? Who cares? Why even spend three seconds worrying about it or thinking about it?

About the only scenario for which I could see it being consequential would be for the extremely unlikely event of a person who achieved Silver status with a LOT of miles (let's say 49,000 miles), so has 24,000 rollover miles, and intends to earn 26,000 MQMs in the first week in January (I don't know, maybe a round trip in D1 from San Francisco to South Africa), and wants to make "Gold" ASAP, for higher status for some run-of-the-mill trip to occur within just days of the African adventure.

Or is it just all about "anxiety" of seeing all those zeros on the medallion status tracking page? (in which case I'd recommend finding something more worthwhile to be anxious or agitated about).

AeRoSpaceman

Because this happens every year for those new to the program and expect everything to show up on January 1st(as they should, but they don't know about DL and OAL in general IT depts.). I thought the same thing when I started this whole DL mileage stuff(where are my rollover miles?). It's just verification that your miles did rollover. Of course I understand now that it could take several days or maybe a couple weeks. But the newly initiated might not know that.

lsquare

Yep, but also consequential for someone that want to get the upgrade certificates? Again, I'm new to DL so that's why I had asked. Now that I know, I won't need to ask in 2021...

Where2GoNow

I did a status match to Platinum at the end of 2017 and had a similar situation. You get rollover based on the level you hit non-status match. So for you it will be 19,655 because you would of hit Silver (25k) assuming you hit the MQD.

Daitheflu84

Came here to post exactly this. Nice job.

lsquare

That's awesome guys! 19k is better than 0. Going to aim for Diamond this year, but I should hit Platinum with all of my travel plans in mind.

Maybe the mods can put something in the summary for DL noobs.

ATOBTTR

Well, another valid scenario is if one has enough rollover to be at or close to Platinum and will already have the $25K MQD waiver secured away by January, they’ll be able to select Choice Benefits, such as gifting status - the earlier status is gifted, the longer the recipient of the gifted status can use it.

I think the other reason for the anxiety is people just don’t trust DL’s IT and there’s “comfort” in seeing it finally show up.

MSPeconomist

Rollover MQMs were much more valuable for most folks before there were MQD requirements.

SuperG1955

What upgrade certificates? If you're thinking GUCs or RUCs for the 2021 Year, you have to earn your 2021 Status which is not only MQM but MQD or waiver.

I'll rollover more than 125k MQM but won't hit the first MQD level ($3,000) until mid-January. That'll make me FO for 2021 - no GUCs/RUCs for FO. I'll hit the GM MQD level ($6,000) and the AMEX @25k waiver level in March which will make me PM for 2021 and I'll be able to select the RUCs for PM/2021. I'll hit the DM MQD level in June which will allow me to select my 2021 DM GUCs and/or RUCs.

MQM rollover, by itself has very little meaning.

FBplatinum

If you move to Canada... you will have your RUC & GUC now .....

sydneyracquelle

Still wondering why MQMs rollover but Segments never do.