bgriff

Yeah it will be interesting to see. Unfortunately it will not really be easy (or even possible) to know if it is working properly or not, especially at the lower elite tiers. But for DMs, I assume relatively few achieved the MQDs or waiver (since most "road warrior" professions are not back in full swing yet) so those who did requalify should presumably be pretty far up on upgrade lists.

I just double-checked and all of the language about upgrade priority does seem to be clear that requalified status vs. rollover status is baked into the first level Medallion status priority, as opposed to a lower priority -- that is to say, a requalified DM on a cheap fare class should still have higher upgrade priority than a rollover DM on an expensive fare class.

It is not mentioned anywhere in the language but I had also assumed that anyone with rollover status who fully qualifies for 2023 status at some point during this year could "step up" into the requalified status category, so that category may get less exclusive as the year goes on (assuming travel starts to get back to normal and lots of people fully qualify, which is not yet certain). But I guess that is not stated anywhere, so it's not guaranteed that is going to be the case.

WillBarrett_68

in theory this is correct but in practice we've seen enough weird stuff from DL IT that I wouldn't bet money that these two thinks are absolutely linked such that seeing the CBs guarantees the upgrade priority system will properly qualify you.

bgriff

I guess maybe, but if indeed there is some behind the scenes issue, I don't know how you will ever know if you were miscategorized.

WillBarrett_68

right. it's essentially two different issues.

1) how do I know that I met the requirements (existence of CBs verifies this)
2) how do I know that the DL system understands that I met the requirements (nobody knows)

scruffair

Has anyone considered the idea of us just crowdsourcing data to get a sense of how it's working? I remember years ago when United switched to the unlimited comp upgrades someone created a whole online spreadsheet type thing where people could input each flight experience and it aggregated the upgrade percentage across all users. You could then filter by routes, status, fare class, etc.

In this case it wouldn't even need to be that elaborate. Even if we just all posted status (earned or rollover), fare class and upgrade clear vs final waitlist position we could pretty easily see if it's generally working or not!

troyintn

Also on CB check your DM 2021 benefits since it updated the Sky club to expire in 2023 versus before January it was at 2022. I wasted one choice from my DM 2022 choices for it then noticed it when I did my 2021 picks.

bgriff

?? That's not what I'm seeing, and even if you did see it I wouldn't count on it. It's clearly the policy that SkyClub CBs expire at the same time as the relevant status, so 1/31/22 for 2021 CBs. Right now my 2021 CBs say "All Delta Sky Club selections are valid through January 31, 2022" and 2022 CBs say "All Delta Sky Club selections are valid through January 31, 2023".

drminn

It might help to look at what qualified you in previous (normal) years. Back then to qualify you had to meet a) the financial (MQD) requirements and b) the MQM requirements. The financial requirements are met by either MQDs through flying or MQD waiver. The MQM requirements where just that, have enough MQMs in your account, whether by flying, CC or rollover, or a combo thereof. Why should it be any different this year? So if you met neither a) nor b) you are a rollover (Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond) member. It seems simple, what am I missing?

Zorak

People aren't confused about how to tell for themselves whether they met the requirements, they're wondering if there will be any visible confirmation from DL that distinguishes extended from earned (since it will matter for upgrade priority) some people might like that peace of mind if there were an affirmative mention on your profile somewhere that confirmed it.

robert4travels

I could not find a definitive answer in this thread, so here's my question. If thanks to rollover MQMs from 2020 to 2021 and to 2022 I take 3 years to qualify as PM, do I get a choice benefit once I reach PM? Or is that seen as "extended status" and thus doesn't qualify? Note that MQDs don't matter for me as I get the MQD waiver. I noticed MQDs still reset every year.

In more detail, my history is:
- Qualified as GM in 2019
- In 2020 did not fly much so my GM status was extended to 2021, with MQM rollover. I did requalify as FO.
- In 2021, thanks to the MQM rollover and MQD waiver I requalified as GM.
- Now in 2022, again thanks for MQM rollover and MQD waiver, and planned flying and credit card spend, I will qualify as PM.
- Once that happens, would I get a choice benefit?

I'm actually not so sure I'm happy with this. If extended status and full MQM rollover ends for 2023, I might fall back to FO as a result. I fly mainly international so lounge access is the biggest benefit for me being a GM. Don't hardly do any domestic flying so I don't care about complimentary upgrades much (C+ is only marginally better than regular Y). But so it goes I guess.

Qwkynuf

Yes, if your accumulated MQMs (roll over from 2020 + roll over from 2021 + accrual in 2022) gets you to 75,000, you will earn PM and get a choice benefit. In addition, unless they make a change later in the year and tweak the roll over rules again, then hitting PM will consume those 75,000 MQMs and you would only roll over anything in excess of that number - same as how it worked pre-pandemic.

If it's going to be close, you might consider holding just shy of 75,000, taking Gold for 2023, and rolling over nearly enough to get you to silver for 2024.

edit to add: "extended status" refers specifically to Delta simply gifting you your current status for another year. It is completely separate from "rollover". As an example, I earned Diamond organically in 2019. In 2020 (like many others) I flew quite a bit less and only qualified at Platinum level (had the miles, missed the spend). Delta extended my Diamond status into 2021 even though I hadn't earned it. In previous years that would have caused me to drop to PM. In 2021 I was able to organically qualify for DM again (even without the accelerators), so I will be an "earned DM" for 2022 rather than an "extended DM". Does that help?

robert4travels

Yes, you explained perfectly. Thanks!

Goodoldflyer

I received the PM email from Delta, but don't see where you make the choice of benefit. Should it come up automatically in the app, or do you have to look for it somewhere?

xliioper

There's a link to the page in the body of the email. Alternatively, Google "Delta Choice Benefits" and it will return the link in the search results -- https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-benefits.html

mb752

Also if you log in on delta.com, go to My Skymiles, then on the left under "Related Links" there should be a link "Choice Benefits".