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lsquare Dec 6, 2019 3:27 am

Forcing Delta to display China Airlines fare?
 
Is this possible? It seems like DL is trying to force me to fly their preferred partners whenever possible and I can't figure out how to get CI to show up.

TPJ Dec 6, 2019 4:56 am

Deltamatic allows (smart/trained/willing to help) agents to view any published fare on any airline. Pricing the fare is another issue as more and more airlines restrict pricing/ticket issuance to only their own plate/stock. If you have access to e.g.Expertflyer check the fare rule restrictions before calling DL. If there is no plate/stock restriction smart agent shall be able to price and issue a ticket.

lsquare Dec 6, 2019 5:20 am


Originally Posted by TPJ (Post 31811485)
Deltamatic allows (smart/trained/willing to help) agents to view any published fare on any airline. Pricing the fare is another issue as more and more airlines restrict pricing/ticket issuance to only their own plate/stock. If you have access to e.g.Expertflyer check the fare rule restrictions before calling DL. If there is no plate/stock restriction smart agent shall be able to price and issue a ticket.

I got EF not that long ago and still learning. How do I check with EF? Honestly, if CI earning wasn't so bad with DL, I wouldn't even bother trying this.

TPJ Dec 6, 2019 5:46 am

It will be in the fare rules, look for something like MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF CI

If you do not see anything like this, DL shall be able to price and sell the ticket.

lsquare Dec 6, 2019 6:05 am


Originally Posted by TPJ (Post 31811582)
It will be in the fare rules, look for something like MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF CI

If you do not see anything like this, DL shall be able to price and sell the ticket.

And then the only way to book it would be to call DL?

TTT Dec 6, 2019 6:17 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 31811626)
And then the only way to book it would be to call DL?

No, in that case the only way to book is with CI as the ticket restricts it's sales and issuance to their channels only (but you could probably also book with a TA/OTA if you wanted).

lsquare Dec 6, 2019 7:42 am


Originally Posted by TTT (Post 31811652)
No, in that case the only way to book is with CI as the ticket restricts it's sales and issuance to their channels only (but you could probably also book with a TA/OTA if you wanted).

I'm confused. I thought he said DL can issue it? The whole point is to avoid earning with CI issued tickets.

xliioper Dec 6, 2019 7:45 am

Earning is based on the marketing carrier, not who issues it. Why do you need DL to issue it? A DL issued ticket with CI marketed flights will still earn at CI rates.

lsquare Dec 6, 2019 7:45 am


Originally Posted by xliioper (Post 31811954)
Earning is based on the marketing carrier, not who issues it. Why do need DL to issue it?


Oh sorry, I didn't know. But if I don't order from DL and have a DL codeshare, then I'll earn based on CI right?

eneq Dec 6, 2019 7:48 am

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TTT Dec 6, 2019 8:05 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 31811940)
I'm confused. I thought he said DL can issue it? The whole point is to avoid earning with CI issued tickets.

If the fare has "MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF CI" in the ticketing carrier section then it can only be issued by CI or a travel agent.

TPJ said "If you do not see anything like this, DL shall be able to price and sell the ticket." (bolding mine). So if the above notation isn't present then Delta can issue it. Otherwise they can't.

TTT Dec 6, 2019 8:07 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 31811956)
Oh sorry, I didn't know. But if I don't order from DL and have a DL codeshare, then I'll earn based on CI right?

For earning purposes, it doesn't matter who issues the ticket. The DL or CI code at the beginning of the flight number determines earnings in the SkyMiles program. For example,

CI1234 will earn using the CI earning chart on Delta.com - https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...rline-partners

DL3456 will earn under the DL earning process (MQD and RDMs earned based on ticket cost, MQMs based on distance).

eneq Dec 6, 2019 8:17 am


Originally Posted by TTT (Post 31812053)
For earning purposes, it doesn't matter who issues the ticket. The DL or CI code at the beginning of the flight number determines earnings in the SkyMiles program. For example,

CI1234 will earn using the CI earning chart on Delta.com - https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...rline-partners

DL3456 will earn under the DL earning process (MQD and RDMs earned based on ticket cost, MQMs based on distance).

Adding on to this, the best mileage earnings are on codeshares where you book with a DL flight number, but it's a CI operated flight. Unfortunately, Delta doesn't have a ton of codeshare flights with CI, so they're hard to find.

parzivalmx Dec 6, 2019 8:58 am

So in this case who I would be earning MQM's and MQD's?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ca682fe251.png

lsquare Dec 6, 2019 9:01 am


Originally Posted by eneq (Post 31812090)
Adding on to this, the best mileage earnings are on codeshares where you book with a DL flight number, but it's a CI operated flight. Unfortunately, Delta doesn't have a ton of codeshare flights with CI, so they're hard to find.

Thx. Is there a complete list of codeshares that DL have with CI? It would save me a lot of time from searching one by one.


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