F seats available - but not for sale?
Feb 22, 2021, 11:56 am
#31
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Follow up question to this thread. I'm on a flight Saturday that shows 2 available FC seats on the upgrade/standby list, which seams to correspond to the 4 available seats shown on the seat map (via dummy booking since my seat map shows all seats blocked). When I called Delta to ask for a price to upgrade for me and my companion, I was told there is only 1 available FC seat left. Anyone know why the other seat would not show up as available for purchase?
Feb 22, 2021, 12:22 pm
#32
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Just curious, I know that it was common in the past that a ticket was purchased and seats were not assigned, especially in economy. However, I have never had a seat unassigned, no matter the booking method (by me through the app or website, through my company Concur or other company portal, through travel agencies such as Amex when trip is paid by someone else, etc). Under which circumstances a seat would not be assigned nowadays?
Feb 22, 2021, 1:43 pm
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I suspect that many foreigners (or their travel agents) don't bother. It can also be harder to pick a seat online if the flight is a codeshare or was written on a partner's ticket stock.
Feb 22, 2021, 1:48 pm
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OK this makes sense. In this instance the seat map shows 1 EC seat as available but the app shows 0 remaining seats in EC, so I assumed the app's count took into account unassigned seats but apparently that is not always the case.
Feb 22, 2021, 2:00 pm
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Agree that some people won't care and that in the past travel agents didn't bother, however, I was under the impression that DL would assign a seat as soon as the reservation is ticketed.
Feb 22, 2021, 2:10 pm
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Feb 23, 2021, 12:11 pm
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Isn't it always better to have a seat assignment and then change it than not to have an assigned seat on the flight?
Feb 23, 2021, 12:12 pm
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Back to OPs topic, DL inventory has on rare occasions done very odd things for me regarding not showing any seats for sale on a clearly-not-sold-out flight.
An example, look at DEN-ATL for this Sunday (2/28). Three of the six direct flights show "sold out" in coach. They are most certainly NOT sold out if you look at the seat map. The "seats remaining" in the app for one of those flights which I'm on shows 75 seats available. But DL hasn't released any inventory for sale. It's been this way with this specific day/flight for two weeks now. This isn't my first experience with this phenomenon, but it usually resolves in a day. Not here.
An example, look at DEN-ATL for this Sunday (2/28). Three of the six direct flights show "sold out" in coach. They are most certainly NOT sold out if you look at the seat map. The "seats remaining" in the app for one of those flights which I'm on shows 75 seats available. But DL hasn't released any inventory for sale. It's been this way with this specific day/flight for two weeks now. This isn't my first experience with this phenomenon, but it usually resolves in a day. Not here.
Feb 23, 2021, 12:15 pm
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Back to OPs topic, DL inventory has on rare occasions done very odd things for me regarding not showing any seats for sale on a clearly-not-sold-out flight.
An example, look at DEN-ATL for this Sunday (2/28). Three of the six direct flights show "sold out" in coach. They are most certainly NOT sold out if you look at the seat map. The "seats remaining" in the app for one of those flights which I'm on shows 75 seats available. But DL hasn't released any inventory for sale. It's been this way with this specific day/flight for two weeks now. This isn't my first experience with this phenomenon, but it usually resolves in a day. Not here.
An example, look at DEN-ATL for this Sunday (2/28). Three of the six direct flights show "sold out" in coach. They are most certainly NOT sold out if you look at the seat map. The "seats remaining" in the app for one of those flights which I'm on shows 75 seats available. But DL hasn't released any inventory for sale. It's been this way with this specific day/flight for two weeks now. This isn't my first experience with this phenomenon, but it usually resolves in a day. Not here.
Feb 23, 2021, 1:31 pm
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I think it is absurdly implausible that DL has sold 75 BE tickets on three separate flights on the same day on planes which, while capacity limited during the pandemic, have ~140 seats for sale. Also, each day for the past two weeks the flights showing as "sold out" have changed (which is how I was ultimately able to buy my preferred flight).
Feb 24, 2021, 8:55 pm
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Feb 24, 2021, 9:37 pm
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I think it is absurdly implausible that DL has sold 75 BE tickets on three separate flights on the same day on planes which, while capacity limited during the pandemic, have ~140 seats for sale. Also, each day for the past two weeks the flights showing as "sold out" have changed (which is how I was ultimately able to buy my preferred flight).
As far as flight availability shfiting dramatically day to day, predictions about demand are not always easy, and there are glitches (or imperfect programming) that occur from time to time as well.
Feb 25, 2021, 10:50 am
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BE passengers appear on the "Standby" list, right?
Why is it so implausible? DL is charging a hefty premium for main cabin right now, and even BE passengers benefit from the blocked middle seat. If you're not an elite customer, why bother with the upcharge right now?
As far as flight availability shfiting dramatically day to day, predictions about demand are not always easy, and there are glitches (or imperfect programming) that occur from time to time as well.
Why is it so implausible? DL is charging a hefty premium for main cabin right now, and even BE passengers benefit from the blocked middle seat. If you're not an elite customer, why bother with the upcharge right now?
As far as flight availability shfiting dramatically day to day, predictions about demand are not always easy, and there are glitches (or imperfect programming) that occur from time to time as well.
Mar 1, 2021, 12:04 pm
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BE passengers appear on the "Standby" list, right?
Why is it so implausible? DL is charging a hefty premium for main cabin right now, and even BE passengers benefit from the blocked middle seat. If you're not an elite customer, why bother with the upcharge right now?
As far as flight availability shfiting dramatically day to day, predictions about demand are not always easy, and there are glitches (or imperfect programming) that occur from time to time as well.
Why is it so implausible? DL is charging a hefty premium for main cabin right now, and even BE passengers benefit from the blocked middle seat. If you're not an elite customer, why bother with the upcharge right now?
As far as flight availability shfiting dramatically day to day, predictions about demand are not always easy, and there are glitches (or imperfect programming) that occur from time to time as well.
