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Future of the 717 at Delta (consolidated Threads)

Future of the 717 at Delta (consolidated Threads)

Old Sep 10, 19, 10:53 am
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Future of the 717 at Delta (consolidated Threads)

Being widely reported that Delta will now keep all 91 717s until 2030 and install inflight entertainment. Probably the same system as the 220s have, which was designed in house by Delta. Between the A220s and 717s, Delta seems more committed to 110 seat airplanes than ever before.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 11:16 am
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Wow. It seems like having IFE on those aircraft would reduce performance. Delta sure seems committed to providing a very consistent product across their system. I am not complaining at all!
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Old Sep 10, 19, 11:35 am
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This is good news. Delta has started using the 717 on one of my regular routes (DCA-CVG), which is an up-gauge from the commuter service we used to have. They're a comfortable plane, and the IFE is a nice addition.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by DCAhome View Post
This is good news. Delta has started using the 717 on one of my regular routes (DCA-CVG), which is an up-gauge from the commuter service we used to have. They're a comfortable plane, and the IFE is a nice addition.
Same for my DCA-JFK flights, always good to have the 717 instead of the regional jets.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 12:21 pm
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Those are going to be some old airframes. Some are already 20 years old it looks like.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by apodo77 View Post
Those are going to be some old airframes. Some are already 20 years old it looks like.
At that age, I imagine it's a bit like the Ship of Theseus's paradox!
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Old Sep 10, 19, 12:41 pm
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Would not be surprised if they use the newly-developed wireless IFE platform like what is in the A220s, A330-900s, and being rolled out on the 767-400s. Shoot, the 717s may be their guinea pig for eventual rollout to the CRJ-900s and Embraer jets.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 1:02 pm
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Only 12 seats in FC, gonna be tough sledding for them upgrades.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by skycubbie View Post
Would not be surprised if they use the newly-developed wireless IFE platform like what is in the A220s, A330-900s, and being rolled out on the 767-400s. Shoot, the 717s may be their guinea pig for eventual rollout to the CRJ-900s and Embraer jets.
DL has stated that any new aircraft receiving PTV's other than the rest of the A321ceos and A350s will get the wireless IFE system. IMO it makes sense to install IFE on the 717 now that DL has the new wireless IFE which is cheap too install and is lightweight. The current 717 seats are already IFE compatible with a cutout in the big empty white space on the back of the seats.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by rh_jeremy View Post
Only 12 seats in FC, gonna be tough sledding for them upgrades.
WFBF! But let's be honest, C+ on the 'two-seat' side of the cabin is no slouch of a place to be.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by rh_jeremy View Post
Only 12 seats in FC, gonna be tough sledding for them upgrades.
12F/98Y is not exactly out of line with the rest of the fleet. It's no E75, but few things are
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Old Sep 10, 19, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by findark View Post
12F/98Y is not exactly out of line with the rest of the fleet. It's no E75, but few things are
Yes, Delta is pretty consistent with an approximately ~12% ratio of F:Y in their mainline fleet.

739: 20:160 (12.5%)
A321: 20:172 (11.7%)
A320: 16:141 (11.3%)
MD88: 16:133 (12.0%)

Given that shorter segments are much easier to score upgrades on (less WFBF and fewer corporate travel policies allow F bookings for sub-2 hour flights), I'd say you'll still do just fine unless your comparison point is the E175.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 4:46 pm
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Awesome news. The 717s show up fairly often at RDU and adding IFE is a welcome addition
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Old Sep 10, 19, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by apodo77 View Post
Those are going to be some old airframes. Some are already 20 years old it looks like.
They are younger than many of the A319/320 and some 738.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by DCAhome View Post
This is good news. Delta has started using the 717 on one of my regular routes (DCA-CVG), which is an up-gauge from the commuter service we used to have. They're a comfortable plane, and the IFE is a nice addition.
Yep...usually now 2 flights on 717's. (CVG-DCA)
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