DL 101 to EZE tonight
Aug 30, 2019, 8:43 pm
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Could be a variety of things, unless someone in the crew tells you why any guess is just that. Depending on your status, an email will probably get you some SkyPesos.
Aug 31, 2019, 10:39 am
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Delta.dumb shows it as delayed under flight status, but flightaware was looking for a while like the flight never existed on Friday (August 30th).
They're up in the air (departure marked as 7:51 am) now, ETA around 6:37 pm into EZE this evening. I don't see any delays posted for the return DL 110 flights, EZE to ATL.
ADDED: Landed at 6:38 pm, although I don't see a gate assignment yet at EZE. I hope they don't get a bus after all of the mess.
They're up in the air (departure marked as 7:51 am) now, ETA around 6:37 pm into EZE this evening. I don't see any delays posted for the return DL 110 flights, EZE to ATL.
ADDED: Landed at 6:38 pm, although I don't see a gate assignment yet at EZE. I hope they don't get a bus after all of the mess.
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Aug 31, 2019, 2:49 pm
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Delta.dumb shows it as delayed under flight status, but flightaware was looking for a while like the flight never existed on Friday (August 30th).
They're up in the air (departure marked as 7:51 am) now, ETA around 6:37 pm into EZE this evening. I don't see any delays posted for the return DL 110 flights, EZE to ATL.
They're up in the air (departure marked as 7:51 am) now, ETA around 6:37 pm into EZE this evening. I don't see any delays posted for the return DL 110 flights, EZE to ATL.
No real need to delay DL110. The plane normally just sits on the ground all day for the 2030ish departure.
Aug 31, 2019, 3:00 pm
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I know the plane is find, assuming that it can be recaptured/cleaned/inspected for security and then boarded in under two hours at EZE. For international, I think less than an hour and a half is really pushing it as DL 110 is scheduled for an 8:15 pm departure while DL 101 will land today at 6:40 pm.
However, I wonder also about crew schedules and crew rest. Obviously the morning arrival DL 101 crew doesn't fly back to ATL as DL 110 on the same day, but with just slightly over 24 hours on the ground, if we deduct time to travel to/from hotels and report/preparation time, it's well under 24 hours rest time. AFAIK crew normally spend one night at EZE, not two as for some of the longer TPAC etc. flights.
However, I wonder also about crew schedules and crew rest. Obviously the morning arrival DL 101 crew doesn't fly back to ATL as DL 110 on the same day, but with just slightly over 24 hours on the ground, if we deduct time to travel to/from hotels and report/preparation time, it's well under 24 hours rest time. AFAIK crew normally spend one night at EZE, not two as for some of the longer TPAC etc. flights.
Aug 31, 2019, 8:44 pm
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I know the plane is find, assuming that it can be recaptured/cleaned/inspected for security and then boarded in under two hours at EZE. For international, I think less than an hour and a half is really pushing it as DL 110 is scheduled for an 8:15 pm departure while DL 101 will land today at 6:40 pm.
However, I wonder also about crew schedules and crew rest. Obviously the morning arrival DL 101 crew doesn't fly back to ATL as DL 110 on the same day, but with just slightly over 24 hours on the ground, if we deduct time to travel to/from hotels and report/preparation time, it's well under 24 hours rest time. AFAIK crew normally spend one night at EZE, not two as for some of the longer TPAC etc. flights.
However, I wonder also about crew schedules and crew rest. Obviously the morning arrival DL 101 crew doesn't fly back to ATL as DL 110 on the same day, but with just slightly over 24 hours on the ground, if we deduct time to travel to/from hotels and report/preparation time, it's well under 24 hours rest time. AFAIK crew normally spend one night at EZE, not two as for some of the longer TPAC etc. flights.
As for crew I thought they normally get two nights even on the shorter "long" hauls. However even if only one night, the crew will be legal in time for an OTD next night. Finally, I don't believe hotel drive time gets included as being on duty. There's nothing requiring the crew even stay at that hotel. They could stay with family, etc..
Aug 31, 2019, 9:51 pm
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However, I wonder also about crew schedules and crew rest. Obviously the morning arrival DL 101 crew doesn't fly back to ATL as DL 110 on the same day, but with just slightly over 24 hours on the ground, if we deduct time to travel to/from hotels and report/preparation time, it's well under 24 hours rest time. AFAIK crew normally spend one night at EZE, not two as for some of the longer TPAC etc. flights.
Aug 31, 2019, 10:01 pm
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I've found outstations generally can turn a/c quicker than in US. It might be a few minutes delayed, however doubt much more than that.
As for crew I thought they normally get two nights even on the shorter "long" hauls. However even if only one night, the crew will be legal in time for an OTD next night. Finally, I don't believe hotel drive time gets included as being on duty. There's nothing requiring the crew even stay at that hotel. They could stay with family, etc..
As for crew I thought they normally get two nights even on the shorter "long" hauls. However even if only one night, the crew will be legal in time for an OTD next night. Finally, I don't believe hotel drive time gets included as being on duty. There's nothing requiring the crew even stay at that hotel. They could stay with family, etc..
You're right on the quick turnaround. DL 110, EZE to ATL, left early tonight, even though they had to tow the plane to a different gate.
Sep 2, 2019, 7:10 am
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Last night's flight was also delayed, by about two and a half hours. They left ATL just before 1 am; I hope a lounge stayed open. ETA is 11:45 am this morning. It's interesting that flight aware shows them as on time, but gives these departure and arrival times.
Last edited by MSPeconomist; Sep 2, 2019 at 7:16 am