Delta Vacations 2cpm
#76
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: WN A+/CP
Posts: 143
Thanks for the intel. Do we have clarity on what "other locations" means? I try to plug in a flight to Paris + car rental, and it doesn't appear that I can use miles on the sidebar.
I can also assume that if I go ahead above and cancel a trip within 24 hours, then that voucher can be used for Air+Car rather than Air+hotel?
I can also assume that if I go ahead above and cancel a trip within 24 hours, then that voucher can be used for Air+Car rather than Air+hotel?
I booked and tried to cancel online. The system tried to charge a fee so I called and the fee was waived. The voucher will come after manual processing and should be usable on any delta vacation. The rep told me that travel must be booked through delta vacation within a year and multiple vouchers can be applied. When I get the voucher, I can paste the terms here.
#77
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta PlM, 1M
Posts: 6,363
Is there any such thing as an exception fare on partner-marketed flights?
I am seeing some marginally tempting offers in the $4-4.5K neighborhood for NYC-BKK on KE-marketed flights or NYC-JNB on VS-marketed flights in discounted business class fare buckets (R and Z respectively). ....
I am seeing some marginally tempting offers in the $4-4.5K neighborhood for NYC-BKK on KE-marketed flights or NYC-JNB on VS-marketed flights in discounted business class fare buckets (R and Z respectively). ....
#78
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
For example:
I'm assuming these VS flights (which correspond to other VS flights on the outbound) earn at the normal 200% RDM/150% MQM/40% MQD rates for a VS-marketed Z fare, but I don't know if there's a way to be certain of that up front.
#79
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
There are unsurprisingly even cheaper options originating from YYZ -- I see US$3500 for some YYZ-JNB packages although I haven't come across any that have partner-coded flights on the return, only KL-coded outbound and DL-coded return.
#80
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 59
Is there any such thing as an exception fare on partner-marketed flights?
I am seeing some marginally tempting offers in the $4-4.5K neighborhood for NYC-BKK on KE-marketed flights or NYC-JNB on VS-marketed flights in discounted business class fare buckets (R and Z respectively). Either one would earn 7K+ roundtrip MQDs, nearly 30K MQMs and nearly 60K RDMs for a DM if they earn according to the regular tables for those partners.
I'm short on MQDs this year so very tempted to burn ~200K SkyMiles for this as a status run; with the RDMs it would be a net cost of ~140K SkyMiles for a bunch of MQDs and MQMs. Given the rapidly diminishing ways to otherwise use SkyMiles in attractive ways I might just value maintaining DM at that price.
But obviously if I somehow failed to earn the miles as anticipated it would be a big waste.
I am seeing some marginally tempting offers in the $4-4.5K neighborhood for NYC-BKK on KE-marketed flights or NYC-JNB on VS-marketed flights in discounted business class fare buckets (R and Z respectively). Either one would earn 7K+ roundtrip MQDs, nearly 30K MQMs and nearly 60K RDMs for a DM if they earn according to the regular tables for those partners.
I'm short on MQDs this year so very tempted to burn ~200K SkyMiles for this as a status run; with the RDMs it would be a net cost of ~140K SkyMiles for a bunch of MQDs and MQMs. Given the rapidly diminishing ways to otherwise use SkyMiles in attractive ways I might just value maintaining DM at that price.
But obviously if I somehow failed to earn the miles as anticipated it would be a big waste.
I'm also looking into these JFK-JNB VS-marketed flights, but in V class which should still earn 25% MQD / 125% MQM / 125% RDM. The miles I would earn with DM bonus nearly offsets all the miles that the trip would cost - and I would earn most of the MQDs that I still need to keep DM. I have one of these on hold now and it's showing up in My Trips on the Delta web site as "Economy Delight (V)". SFO-JNB or LAX-JNB are even better, and the miles earned more than covers the cost of the trip, other than the cost of the positioning flight.
#81
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 700
I've seen some $1500/2 ppl examples in E+ YYZ-various places in Europe. $2200/2 ppl to S Africa. These are with the cheapest hotels, which you can throw-away. For 37.5k, and 55.5k "redemptions" for a paid ticket respectively- it's not a bad way to go!
#82
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
Last year I bought a vacation package through Expedia with KL-marketed DL-operated flights (Z fare). It was definitely a non-published fare based on the price. I earned the fully expected MQDs/MQMs/RDMs from the partner earnings table shown for KLM. I realize it was Expedia and not Delta Vacations, but I would hope that wouldn't matter.
I'm also looking into these JFK-JNB VS-marketed flights, but in V class which should still earn 25% MQD / 125% MQM / 125% RDM. The miles I would earn with DM bonus nearly offsets all the miles that the trip would cost - and I would earn most of the MQDs that I still need to keep DM. I have one of these on hold now and it's showing up in My Trips on the Delta web site as "Economy Delight (V)". SFO-JNB or LAX-JNB are even better, and the miles earned more than covers the cost of the trip, other than the cost of the positioning flight.
I'm also looking into these JFK-JNB VS-marketed flights, but in V class which should still earn 25% MQD / 125% MQM / 125% RDM. The miles I would earn with DM bonus nearly offsets all the miles that the trip would cost - and I would earn most of the MQDs that I still need to keep DM. I have one of these on hold now and it's showing up in My Trips on the Delta web site as "Economy Delight (V)". SFO-JNB or LAX-JNB are even better, and the miles earned more than covers the cost of the trip, other than the cost of the positioning flight.
My latest findings: JFK-MEL, with some creative routings, for around $5400. That's moving out of mileage run territory, but if you were looking at an Australia trip anyway, 270K SkyMiles roundtrip is probably not much more than "saver" award pricing would be these days (if it even still exists, which is unclear). I don't see any options that are 100% VA-marketed, but it appears you can get VA flight numbers on the long leg over the water anyway. That is clearly an unpublished fare -- for the JNB and BKK routings you can find similar $4K-ish fares on ITA Matrix, but for the same Australia flights public fares are $10K+.
#83
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: DL PM; IHG PlatAmb; Hilton Dia; Marriott Plat; Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,316
Yeah seeing this on the website. I'm not sure if Delta Vacations would even have an answer to the question though?
For example:
I'm assuming these VS flights (which correspond to other VS flights on the outbound) earn at the normal 200% RDM/150% MQM/40% MQD rates for a VS-marketed Z fare, but I don't know if there's a way to be certain of that up front.
For example:
I'm assuming these VS flights (which correspond to other VS flights on the outbound) earn at the normal 200% RDM/150% MQM/40% MQD rates for a VS-marketed Z fare, but I don't know if there's a way to be certain of that up front.
#84
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 1,002
Same issue, wasn't working for me at check out either when I tried to redeem miles, the entire purchase price showed up.
#85
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: NC
Posts: 117
I found the same thing when making my booking, however I figured out that you have to select the miles option on the checkout page and once again enter the miles you wish to use. I think the previous miles input is just a guide for you to determine what type of credit you will receive, however you have to confirm this on the checkout page.
#86
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: NC
Posts: 117
75k miles for 3 flights, 6 nights at a Disney-affiliated hotel and a rental car sounds like a good deal to me!
#87
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 1,002
I found the same thing when making my booking, however I figured out that you have to select the miles option on the checkout page and once again enter the miles you wish to use. I think the previous miles input is just a guide for you to determine what type of credit you will receive, however you have to confirm this on the checkout page.
#88
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
My latest findings: JFK-MEL, with some creative routings, for around $5400. That's moving out of mileage run territory, but if you were looking at an Australia trip anyway, 270K SkyMiles roundtrip is probably not much more than "saver" award pricing would be these days (if it even still exists, which is unclear). I don't see any options that are 100% VA-marketed, but it appears you can get VA flight numbers on the long leg over the water anyway. That is clearly an unpublished fare -- for the JNB and BKK routings you can find similar $4K-ish fares on ITA Matrix, but for the same Australia flights public fares are $10K+.
Booked the cheapest hotel which I plan to throw away; there were some hotels for not much more that sounded not bad, like the Intercontinental, but after looking more closely at their website I decided they did not look so great after all and weren't worth the incremental amount they were asking vs. just booking the cheapest hotel as a throwaway.
The best part: JFK-MEL as a SkyMiles award ticket the same dates costs 930K miles roundtrip in business class. Per. Person.
#90
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 123
I booked and tried to cancel online. The system tried to charge a fee so I called and the fee was waived. The voucher will come after manual processing and should be usable on any delta vacation. The rep told me that travel must be booked through delta vacation within a year and multiple vouchers can be applied. When I get the voucher, I can paste the terms here.