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omaralt Aug 10, 2019 2:03 pm

At what age can delta seat a child by them selves?
 
my sister and brother in law are traveling to London today from Atlanta (currently en route to Atlanta)

they bought basic economy and are traveling with 3 children (7, 4, and 2). These are the seats they gave them, which would have the 7 year old sitting alone. Is this allowed or will the gate agents switch their seats?

Cledaybuck Aug 10, 2019 2:23 pm

Oh boy. Here we go.

rickg523 Aug 10, 2019 2:24 pm

They should move him close to the parents. Ideally, next to one of them, the other parent seated with the other two kids.
They would charge a fee if no parent was traveling with a 7 year old, because by their own rules she needs care that can't be expected from a stranger sitting next to him by chance. They wouldn't let her travel unaccompanied by an adult, so they charge the fee to accompany the minor child.
Finally, my main problem with seperate seating like this is in an emergency, the parent is likely to impede other passengers as he wants to get his kid to safety - you know, be a parent. FAs will nag passengers to no end if p their baggage doesn't fit under the seat because it might impede other passengers in case of an emergency. This is far more serious.

MSPeconomist Aug 10, 2019 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by Cledaybuck (Post 31401706)
Oh boy. Here we go.

Prepare popcorn.

omaralt Aug 10, 2019 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by Cledaybuck (Post 31401706)
Oh boy. Here we go.


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 31401714)
Prepare popcorn.

lol not looking for any controversy. Just wanna know if there’s a set age where a child is not allowed to be seated alone

Rbt001 Aug 10, 2019 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by omaralt (Post 31401643)
my sister and brother in law are traveling to London today from Atlanta (currently en route to Atlanta)

they bought basic economy and are traveling with 3 children (7, 4, and 2). These are the seats they gave them, which would have the 7 year old sitting alone. Is this allowed or will the gate agents switch their seats?

I was curious and looked through Delta's website to see if they post details and ages that would help answer this question. The most I found was Delta's cheery: "We're here to help families take flight."

BUT.... they do go on to say that families should "... know the details about flying with infants and children."

Delta clearly posts that Basic Economy DOES NOT come with pre-assigned seats.

During the ticketing process for basic economy I really wish Delta would REQUIRE mandatory seat selection for minors to a certain age next to an adult in the ticketed party. Yes, RIGHT AT BOOKING FOR BASIC ECONOMY adjacent seat assignments should be MANDATORY when there are minor children below an acceptable age traveling.

And those seat assignments should carry a fee equal to the difference between basic economy and main cabin.

Basic economy fares are discounted because the ability to select seat assignments is not included in the discounted price. Delta is clear about this, so I'm not sure why parents are not.

Or maybe Delta should prohibit the sale of Basic Economy tickets to minors, so confused parents aren't disappointed.

omaralt Aug 10, 2019 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by Rbt001 (Post 31401776)
I was curious and looked through Delta's website to see if they post details and ages that would help answer this question. The most I found was Delta's cheery: "We're here to help families take flight."

BUT.... they do go on to say that families should "... know the details about flying with infants and children."

Delta clearly posts that Basic Economy DOES NOT come with pre-assigned seats.

During the ticketing process for basic economy I really wish Delta would REQUIRE mandatory seat selection for minors to a certain age next to an adult in the ticketed party. Yes, RIGHT AT BOOKING FOR BASIC ECONOMY adjacent seat assignments should be MANDATORY when there are minor children below an acceptable age traveling.

And those seat assignments should carry a fee equal to the difference between basic economy and main cabin.

Basic economy fares are discounted because the ability to select seat assignments is not included in the discounted price. Delta is clear about this, so I'm not sure why parents are not.

Or maybe Delta should prohibit the sale of Basic Economy tickets to minors, so confused parents aren't disappointed.

I agree. Delta shouldn’t allow those traveling with minors to purchase basic economy. And trust me I gave my sister a lesson in ticketing. It’s good to remind yourself how little most people know about these things

rickg523 Aug 10, 2019 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by omaralt (Post 31401736)



lol not looking for any controversy. Just wanna know if there’s a set age where a child is not allowed to be seated alone

Typically 15 years and younger flying without an adult must pay for UMC. Logic says a 12 year old could sit widely seperated from their parent without involving their seatmates. But the emergency issue is still out there frustrating the airline's attempt to monetize parenthood.
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MSPeconomist Aug 10, 2019 3:05 pm

The same parents who insist that the family be seated together on BE tickets for other trips will get FC award tickets for the parents and coach award tickets for their kids or voluntarily make similar arrangements that put the adults in a premium cabin while the kids fend for themselves back in coach.

Another easy solution would be to charge the UM fee for every child under 15 at the time of purchase for BE fares.

Often1 Aug 10, 2019 3:17 pm

To answer OP's narrow question, there is no requirement that a US carrier seat a child adjacent to a parent.

However, DL will, if necessary, involuntarily move another passenger in order to assure that a 7 YOA is adjacent to a parent. This does not mean that the family as a whole is seated together, it could mean that the seats are across an aisle, and it also means that the adult is moved to one of the seats at the rear of the aircraft which are held for oddball situations.

If it were my 7 YOA, I would pay the money to assign seats.

DL goes out of its way to warn passengers about the perils of BE. No need to overcomplicate things. There is only so far a business can go in telling a parent how much she ought to care about her kid.

omaralt Aug 10, 2019 3:22 pm

Update

so much for my sister promising to never buying basic economy. They went to the gate and the agent gave them the bulkhead row. They are traveling with a lap child as well so I’m sure that helped her case. The plane was 100% full so I imagine there will be some upset passengers who were in the bulkhead that are now in a middle seat

MSPeconomist Aug 10, 2019 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by omaralt (Post 31401875)
Update

so much for my sister promising to never buying basic economy. They went to the gate and the agent gave them the bulkhead row. They are traveling with a lap child as well so I’m sure that helped her case. The plane was 100% full so I imagine there will be some upset passengers who were in the bulkhead that are now in a middle seat

That's disgusting. I hope the displaced passengers complain. The GA is just *teaching* the parents to do the same thing again.

ATOBTTR Aug 10, 2019 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by omaralt (Post 31401736)
lol not looking for any controversy. Just wanna know if there’s a set age where a child is not allowed to be seated alone

The issue is the question, if not purposely or knowingly done so, creates the controversy because a family bought a type of ticket knowing it didn't come with advance seat assignments is now in a position of possibly having to request a seat swap with a passenger who did not buy a Basic Economy ticket so they could select a seat in advance. Chances of getting middle seats spread throughout the cabin is also high when on BE so the chances thus become high that said passenger who is being asked to swap is being asked to swap from a aisle or window to a middle seat.

Edit: sounds like this is exactly what happened and why people were making remarks like "get the popcorn"...….

Cledaybuck Aug 10, 2019 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by Rbt001 (Post 31401776)
I was curious and looked through Delta's website to see if they post details and ages that would help answer this question. The most I found was Delta's cheery: "We're here to help families take flight."

BUT.... they do go on to say that families should "... know the details about flying with infants and children."

Delta clearly posts that Basic Economy DOES NOT come with pre-assigned seats.

During the ticketing process for basic economy I really wish Delta would REQUIRE mandatory seat selection for minors to a certain age next to an adult in the ticketed party. Yes, RIGHT AT BOOKING FOR BASIC ECONOMY adjacent seat assignments should be MANDATORY when there are minor children below an acceptable age traveling.

And those seat assignments should carry a fee equal to the difference between basic economy and main cabin.

Basic economy fares are discounted because the ability to select seat assignments is not included in the discounted price. Delta is clear about this, so I'm not sure why parents are not.

Or maybe Delta should prohibit the sale of Basic Economy tickets to minors, so confused parents aren't disappointed.


Originally Posted by omaralt (Post 31401780)

I agree. Delta shouldn’t allow those traveling with minors to purchase basic economy. And trust me I gave my sister a lesson in ticketing. It’s good to remind yourself how little most people know about these things

Disagree. Delta should seat parents next to children under a certain age next to each other if on the same pnr. Other airlines (including AA) are able to do it.

ekozie Aug 10, 2019 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by Cledaybuck (Post 31401913)



Disagree. Delta should seat parents next to children under a certain age next to each other if on the same pnr. Other airlines (including AA) are able to do it.


There's an easy way to do this - block out the last two rows of the plane for families in BE.

(and decrease pitch to 28" while they're at it)

WNK,BNK


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