Why no WX advisory for northeast today?
Aug 7, 2019, 4:54 pm
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Why no WX advisory for northeast today?
Curious as to DL's thinking on this one... lines of severe tstorms predicted and happening throughout the northeast today. Pretty much every major airport from the mid atlantic northward along the coast is a mess, yet no waivers were issued. DL has issued waivers for significantly less widespread weather events of smaller intensity recently, particularly in the JFK area.
Aug 7, 2019, 6:44 pm
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Curious as to DL's thinking on this one... lines of severe tstorms predicted and happening throughout the northeast today. Pretty much every major airport from the mid atlantic northward along the coast is a mess, yet no waivers were issued. DL has issued waivers for significantly less widespread weather events of smaller intensity recently, particularly in the JFK area.
Anyway, here are the waiver details. It's valid for tomorrow too. Likely because of a knock-on effect and/or another set of storms likely to affect air traffic going from the NYC area to/from the West.
Date of Impacted Travel: August 7-8, 2019
Affected Area(s) To/From/Through the following cities:
- New York, NY – Kennedy (JFK)
- New York, NY – LaGuardia (LGA)
- Newark, NJ (EWR)
- Newburgh, NY (SWF)
- Philadelphia, PA (PHL)
- White Plains, NY (HPN)
Aug 7, 2019, 7:09 pm
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Been watching the WX situation at BOS and surprised its not listed there... they've been on rolling ground stops since earlier this afternoon and about to get hammered again. Saw some flights take off and get diverted back to the airport after flying around for a couple hours. The northeast tracking radar map has eerie large empty areas with flights going well around the storm cell paths.
Forecast calls for more through the morning.
Forecast calls for more through the morning.
Aug 7, 2019, 7:43 pm
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I am very curious of their thinking too... As of early yesterday (Aug 6), it was becoming clear today (Aug 7) would be rough in the Northeast for air travel. By the end of the day, I even remarked to someone that it's very unlike Delta to not have issued something.
Anyway, here are the waiver details. It's valid for tomorrow too. Likely because of a knock-on effect and/or another set of storms likely to affect air traffic going from the NYC area to/from the West.
Date of Impacted Travel: August 7-8, 2019
Affected Area(s) To/From/Through the following cities:
Anyway, here are the waiver details. It's valid for tomorrow too. Likely because of a knock-on effect and/or another set of storms likely to affect air traffic going from the NYC area to/from the West.
Date of Impacted Travel: August 7-8, 2019
Affected Area(s) To/From/Through the following cities:
- New York, NY – Kennedy (JFK)
- New York, NY – LaGuardia (LGA)
- Newark, NJ (EWR)
- Newburgh, NY (SWF)
- Philadelphia, PA (PHL)
- White Plains, NY (HPN)
Aug 7, 2019, 8:02 pm
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Hmm, I don't really expect any issues since it will be later tomorrow, but I wonder if I should change my flights for tomorrow just because I can. Right now, I'm scheduled to fly DL888 BOS-JFK, then DL44 JFK-DUB(D1). I had to change plans last minute and come to NH for a couple days before my trip, so I booked DL888 on miles instead of paying to change to the DL154 BOS-DUB. I would assume that even though I'm self-connecting in JFK, they wouldn't have an issue changing it as if I was on one ticket.
Aug 7, 2019, 8:07 pm
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Yea, thats why I make sure to stick with DL for self connecting on the outbound. Getting back home I'm willing to take more risk. I think I'm going to stick with what I have, knowing that they could likely get me on DL154 should IRROPS make it tough for me get down to JFK. Main concern would be the limited seats left in D1 for that flight.
Aug 7, 2019, 8:14 pm
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Yea, thats why I make sure to stick with DL for self connecting on the outbound. Getting back home I'm willing to take more risk. I think I'm going to stick with what I have, knowing that they could likely get me on DL154 should IRROPS make it tough for me get down to JFK. Main concern would be the limited seats left in D1 for that flight.
I'm sure the phone lines are a huge mess right now, but it would be interesting to see if they'd allow you to change JFK-DUB to BOS-DUB right now.
Aug 7, 2019, 8:18 pm
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The storms looked rather scattered earlier this afternoon but then seemed to develop into much larger and more connected/disruptive systems. So maybe their forecasts were off. But yeah, it was pretty bad out there!
Aug 7, 2019, 8:28 pm
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Certainly part of my consideration as well. Don't really want to hang around on the phone a 10pm for a likely unnecessary change.
Aug 7, 2019, 8:48 pm
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I have had many one ways affected by weather/IROPS and have always been able to get the other one way changed for free without any pushback.
Aug 7, 2019, 8:53 pm
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Aug 7, 2019, 8:57 pm
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DL154 BOS-DUB is showing J3 for tomorrow so it can be an option.
DL888 for Thurs is currently based on the inbound route DTW-RDU-DTW-BOS starting at 7am.
The issue is the equipment for that 7am flight is a couple hours late to depart LGA so hopefully it gets to DTW tonight.
Operations might be a little messy tomorrow due to so much equip and crews in the wrong places due to delays and cancellations.
DL888 for Thurs is currently based on the inbound route DTW-RDU-DTW-BOS starting at 7am.
The issue is the equipment for that 7am flight is a couple hours late to depart LGA so hopefully it gets to DTW tonight.
Operations might be a little messy tomorrow due to so much equip and crews in the wrong places due to delays and cancellations.
Last edited by rylan; Aug 7, 2019 at 9:04 pm Reason: Fixed incoming flights