Lithium batteries and Delta's abandonment of common sense
Jul 1, 2019, 5:14 pm
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With volume of lithium ion batteries tagging along in our travels these days, it seems only a matter of time before something really bad happens to a passenger flight. They have already taken down at least one cargo jet. I am travelling with a small carry on today with at least four such batteries even though I do not use a smart bag.
Jul 1, 2019, 7:21 pm
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Jul 1, 2019, 8:04 pm
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Jul 1, 2019, 8:19 pm
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With volume of lithium ion batteries tagging along in our travels these days, it seems only a matter of time before something really bad happens to a passenger flight. They have already taken down at least one cargo jet. I am travelling with a small carry on today with at least four such batteries even though I do not use a smart bag.
Jul 2, 2019, 6:34 am
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I understand where the OP is coming from, it does seem ridiculous that simply moving the battery from one compartment to another compartment fulfills the requirement and allows for the plane to take off.
I have a Travel Pro with a compartment for a battery (though I do not have a battery to put in the compartment) and if the gate agent asks and I have been asked a few times, I just say either say that I moved the battery (because explaining that it is an empty compartment tends to create more confusion than it is worth) or I say the compartment is empty as I do not have a battery at the moment.
With all that said, it is easier to just go with the flow, move the battery, modern flying unfortunately tends to be about authority and sadly us the passengers generally loose that battle.
I have a Travel Pro with a compartment for a battery (though I do not have a battery to put in the compartment) and if the gate agent asks and I have been asked a few times, I just say either say that I moved the battery (because explaining that it is an empty compartment tends to create more confusion than it is worth) or I say the compartment is empty as I do not have a battery at the moment.
With all that said, it is easier to just go with the flow, move the battery, modern flying unfortunately tends to be about authority and sadly us the passengers generally loose that battle.
Jul 2, 2019, 7:06 am
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It is to keep the battery accessible so that the fire can be fought, or the battery moved to the fire containment bag, if it has a thermal runaway fire.
Jul 2, 2019, 7:57 am
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Jul 2, 2019, 3:32 pm
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Am I the only one who read it that the battery was not in it's "in use" place, but tossed among the OPs unmentionables and what not, and then moved to a different pocket with his mentionables?
And please correct me if I am wrong, but if I am right, most of these posts follow Delta forum rule #1 : The OP is always wrong.
And please correct me if I am wrong, but if I am right, most of these posts follow Delta forum rule #1 : The OP is always wrong.
Jul 2, 2019, 3:40 pm
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Am I the only one who read it that the battery was not in it's "in use" place, but tossed among the OPs unmentionables and what not, and then moved to a different pocket with his mentionables?
And please correct me if I am wrong, but if I am right, most of these posts follow Delta forum rule #1 : The OP is always wrong.
And please correct me if I am wrong, but if I am right, most of these posts follow Delta forum rule #1 : The OP is always wrong.
But I grant that I wasn't there either so I could be wrong too.
Jul 2, 2019, 3:50 pm
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That possibility had occurred to me too, but it's unclear because OP decided to word it so cleverly. And that same lack of clarity is what got him in trouble with the FA. If it was already detached and in a separate compartment, and he'd simply said that like a normal person, then I am pretty sure that would have been that and we wouldn't have this thread.
But I grant that I wasn't there either so I could be wrong too.
But I grant that I wasn't there either so I could be wrong too.
but with lithium batter "bra-hoo-ha", that now all the "smart carry-on" makers make an area in the luggage +/- their specific battery "designated" for said (or any other) battery, Delta, I found out, is one of the only airlines who apparently persists in wanting to play the same eye rolling stupid game
https://www.awaytravel.com/battery
Whether or not the battery in this case was in its (not permissible) built in compartment or in a permissible area of the luggage, the fact remains that the burden is on OP to clearly prove to staff that they are in compliance with Delta’s safety standards for smart luggage and that their battery is safely stored for travel. Arguing with the GA or complaining about a policy that UA, DL and AA have all adopted at the recommendation of international standards organizations isn’t going to be a productive course of action.
Jul 2, 2019, 4:04 pm
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OP seems to directly complain that Delta won’t allow the battery to be installed in the Away provided ejectable compartment, so I interpreted that they had the battery stored there:
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They do elsewhere mention zippers, which supports the interpretation that the pack had already been ejected
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They do elsewhere mention zippers, which supports the interpretation that the pack had already been ejected
the gate agent as I boarded, took a look at the carry-on and asked "is your battery removed from it's compartment?" and I answered: "It is a battery like any other not connected to anything, and placed like my toothbrush in the luggage" - she looked puzzled, and I boarded.
