End of the line for the CRJ
Jun 25, 2019, 5:48 pm
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Jun 25, 2019, 6:07 pm
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Jun 25, 2019, 6:53 pm
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What exactly makes them better? I’d guess that I’ve flown variants of each at least 50 times each over the past year and aside from the CR2 which truly is the devils chariot and one other model that doesn’t have a lav in front (CR7?) they’re interchangeable. What exactly is the difference between a CR9 and an E170/5 from your perspective that makes the former so inferior?
Jun 25, 2019, 8:09 pm
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The C series was a mess up. Bombardier could have done a lot better with it in some smaller countries but they were not interested in doing that. It was a good aircraft and could have been a good project for Bombardier if they handled it a lot better.
Jun 25, 2019, 8:33 pm
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What exactly makes them better? I’d guess that I’ve flown variants of each at least 50 times each over the past year and aside from the CR2 which truly is the devils chariot and one other model that doesn’t have a lav in front (CR7?) they’re interchangeable. What exactly is the difference between a CR9 and an E170/5 from your perspective that makes the former so inferior?
Jun 25, 2019, 8:49 pm
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Jun 25, 2019, 9:07 pm
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CR2= horrible
CR9 = amazing
but folks, the 717 has been slowly replacing this for years. I am glad delta does not do propeller planes. Does united or American still use the turbo props? That’s why i stopped flying them!
CR9 = amazing
but folks, the 717 has been slowly replacing this for years. I am glad delta does not do propeller planes. Does united or American still use the turbo props? That’s why i stopped flying them!
Jun 25, 2019, 9:13 pm
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Jun 25, 2019, 9:27 pm
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What exactly makes them better? I’d guess that I’ve flown variants of each at least 50 times each over the past year and aside from the CR2 which truly is the devils chariot and one other model that doesn’t have a lav in front (CR7?) they’re interchangeable. What exactly is the difference between a CR9 and an E170/5 from your perspective that makes the former so inferior?
The ability to put in a regular roll aboard and you can put them in wheels first in F as well
The less curved fuselage
A CR9 is tolerable, an E-jet is comfortable
Jun 25, 2019, 9:49 pm
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Jun 25, 2019, 10:45 pm
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Call me weird, but I don't mind the CR2 on flights they are generally used on today in DL's network. I'd rather have CR2 service than no service at all. The flights are generally under an hour in-flight on which I could care less about ammenities, and I can survive.
CR7 and CR9 aircraft are fine too.
DL has come a long way in the past several years from where they used to use these types of aircraft.
CR2s on routes like SLC-MSP circa 2005 were not cool. Routes like SLC-GJT, DTW-SCE are perfectly fine.
CR7s on routes like DTW-DFW circa 2010 not cool (nothing worse than everyone queuing up for a single lav in the back on a 3 hour flight), routes like DTW-MDW, DTW-SDF fine by me.
CR7 and CR9 aircraft are fine too.
DL has come a long way in the past several years from where they used to use these types of aircraft.
CR2s on routes like SLC-MSP circa 2005 were not cool. Routes like SLC-GJT, DTW-SCE are perfectly fine.
CR7s on routes like DTW-DFW circa 2010 not cool (nothing worse than everyone queuing up for a single lav in the back on a 3 hour flight), routes like DTW-MDW, DTW-SDF fine by me.
Jun 25, 2019, 11:01 pm
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Weird
The granddaddy of the all LAS-TUL-CVG left Vegas at 1:20 AM on a CR2 and stopped in TUL for fuel....but I think you could just book that part of it.
Jun 26, 2019, 12:40 am
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I just don't get the mantra on this board where CR2s are like the plague when in reality most routes are pretty binary in DL's network these days. Most routes that are CR2 are all CR2 and the alternative in most cases is CR2 on other airlines, driving to a bigger airport, or no service at all.
Its easy to avoid the CR2 if you don't fly into smaller markets, but the small cities they serve that is about all they got.
In many cases, DL is a lot better than the others in markets that DL may often have the biggest airplanes in the market, particularly in cities in the Upper Midwest & Southeast.
Its easy to avoid the CR2 if you don't fly into smaller markets, but the small cities they serve that is about all they got.
In many cases, DL is a lot better than the others in markets that DL may often have the biggest airplanes in the market, particularly in cities in the Upper Midwest & Southeast.
Jun 26, 2019, 5:46 am
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Mitsubishi stole about as much as they could from Bombardier, and still can't get a plane our the door. The MRJ program is so screwed up that they had to re-engineer a significant portion of the aircraft design and the program to the SpaceJet. The 75 seater is DOA and Bombardier is stellar at weight reduction and streamlined engineering, Bombardier just don't know to run a low margin business efficiently.
Mitsubishi stole about as much as they could from Bombardier, and still can't get a plane our the door. The MRJ program is so screwed up that they had to re-engineer a significant portion of the aircraft design and the program to the SpaceJet. The 75 seater is DOA and Bombardier is stellar at weight reduction and streamlined engineering, Bombardier just don't know to run a low margin business efficiently.
Jun 26, 2019, 6:31 am
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It does make me wonder what happens to a lot of small markets when the CR2 is done. Places like Lewiston, Idaho and West Yellowstone, Montana where Delta Connection is the only carrier and only operates CRJ-200s.
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