can US<->Europe rt busn award get lower than 128K/person?
 

August 2019; US<==>WesternEurope (2) busn "Delta One" 256K total;
that's 128K/person or 64K/segment; does it get any lower?
:confused: :confused: :confused:
or maybe it does, but not much & I should grab it...?
:p :p :p
all Delta, $100+ taxes-fees total;
(popular Europe destination) thanks in advance

(also, how do I set up email notification of responses???)

yes they can get lower. but they might not
If you a DL PL or Diamond, book now and you can change for free if the cost ever comes down,

128k for US<>Europe roundtrip in business is a very good price on DL, and one of the lowest you will find.

In very occasional instance, DL will have a "Flash Sale" or some other promotion where a lower price is possible, but 128k is the normal floor as far as anyone can tell.

This is actually one place where DL miles have not lost an immense amount of value. Back in the days of award charts (perhaps 5-6 years ago), the lowest US<>Europe business award was 125k RT. So a 3k increase over several years...not so bad in the grand scheme of things.

Not much lower. I have found some at 125k but nothing below that. And I think that is a good deal.

There was the JAX only awards for 116RT that was posted here a few days. Still looks to be active with no expiration date (60-day AP). Those 128K RT's also have a 60-day AP and are only good through Sep 4th, so window to book is rapidly running out. Always check the fare rules. The nominal low-level one-way is 105K on DL, 86K on VS, and 75K on AF/KL. So very unlikely to see anything less than these 128K/116K RT deals (which require an RT booking for purchase and are not available as one-way's).

Thanks for answers.
Am going to grab them as I am a flash sale know-nothing...
Question:
Wifey has 147K & I have 238K..
If I understand correctly, it would cost 0.01 x 18K = $180 to get 256K in one account.
Is the alternative for both of us to buy (1) 128K award simultaneously, different laptops?
(then worry about seating side by side)
And if only (1) can be bought, is other refundable within X hours? X = ???
Thanks in advance. ^ ^ ^

It should tell you if there is only a handful left of seats in the bucket (less than 3 or 4 I think). You could always just start a dummy booking for 2 pax as well.

As long as the trip is for flights originating out of the US, you are eligible for risk-free cancel on an award ticket same as on a cash ticket -- you can cancel up until midnight the day after you purchase. For what you are looking at, I would aim to book separate tickets out of each account. Doing it simultaneously won't really help anything -- one will still go through first and either will or won't screw up the second one, so you might as well do them one after the other, though obviously not waiting too long since someone else could conceivably swoop in and take that second ticket.

Just accomplished this same feat a few days ago to go D1 to Barcelona to catch a cruise. i found it most simple to book each independently, and worry about sitting next to each other later.since outbound is most likely a night trip, there isnt much to do after dinner besides read a book ,watch a movie or get some sleep. The only other hurddle ( for me anyway) is my wife tends to like us on one itineraryto make the check in process easier. I told her for 128 K round trip and a Mediterranean cruise, she would just have to get over it

Based on a disappeared post on the Premium Fare Deals board I was able to book JAX-AMS rt in first/D1 for 116,000 miles plus $59.43. Seems to have been some very special JAX deal as I couldn't reproduce it from RDU or DCA, my airports. Those were coming up around 200,000 miles for similar dates. Getting to JAX adds 29,000 miles, but still a low D1 fare to AMS in April.
I think the post disappeared because it was about paying with miles, not $s.

I posted about the JAX deal in post 5 above. Deal still seems to be active, but cities appear to be pretty limited (AMS and CDG for sure)..

That's the destination!
For others interested in same,
Aug 19 & 20 seem to be the only departure dates that trigger 128K busn rt offer.
Return had to be between 14-18 days later to maintain 128K...

Why it would be only Aug 19 & 20, not any other dates 2 mos. either direction,
makes one wonder if Delta plays some kind of severe-restriction-game even
when other dates have same availability? And when that date is filled then
another specific pair of dates will be offered at 128K...??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

There's no mystery here. The 128K RT awards have a 60-day advance purchase requirement and are good for travel through Sep 4th. That currently puts you at Aug 19th for departures to meet the requirements. All you have to do to discover this is click on the Fare Rules link. It's not that hard. These rewards have actually been around for several months now (and have been noted on the DL forum), but you need to pay attention to the AP requirements.

Of course there is.
For newbies & novices.
Points-Miles game can be as complicated as chess.

Just click on the Fare Rules link for the award. It lists the requirements and limitations such advance purchase, minimum stay, and seasonality restrictions (if any). There's a 60 day advance purchase (which now puts us at Aug 21 to meet it), Saturday night stay required, and an end date of September 6th. You don't have to stay 14+ days, just over a Saturday (measured from date of arrival) and return by Sept 6th. Or course, that also requires finding days with bucket availability in the lowest level (that's what the flexible dates search is good for).

Gooselee, and just before that the floor was 90k, and a few years before that 80k.................and considering that hardly anyone ever finds avails at 128k, no it is not remarkable............some would call it something else entirely!

we caught a flash sale for I believe 98k miles slc-lon that we used in may. I think we booked it the previous oct or dec. Best BC sale in miles I've ever seen.

My brother got MCO-ATL-FRA/FRA-ATL in D1 this August for 98K. He used to fly a lot on DL maybe 15 years ago and asked me "is this a good price, seems high" :) I told him jump on it (he is stopping over in ATL for DragonCon)

I was able to get LAX-ATL-FRA-ATL-LAX around the same dates for 128K. But to get the same dates would have been 400+K because there was no FC space on LAX-ATL the day I wanted. So I did ATL-FRA-ATL-LAX for 128K on my preferred dates and bought a cheap LAX-ATL ticket in Y.

We booked these in early May.

Last year I bought a $3200 D1 ticket and used 100K miles to knock a grand off. Since I don't need to make 125K MQM anymore I am very happy with this deal.

Gosh, my apologies. I completely forgot that reminiscing about the good ol' days of 8-10+ years ago and a completely different era of airline FFPs was more relevant to this conversation than describing what is currently the reality. And certainly the various reports of people actually booking TATL J awards at 98/116/128k within the past year are strong evidence of hardly anyone ever finding them available.

If OP found TATL, business class flights that work for him/her for 128k RT per person, OP should book them now.

If others would like to wait around to see if DL magically decides to reverse a decade of program changes and inflation to release large volumes of 80k awards, they have every right to do so. Personally I don't think that's the better strategy than just taking the 128k flight currently being offered, right now, in today's reality.

No gooselee, YOU are the one who brought A previous award chart at ONE period in time, and YOU seemed to have thought that what we now have is a WONDERFUL deal. Previous to you writing what you wrote, no one on this thread was reminiscing about the old days. All I did was comment that what you thought made this a wonderful deal, is in fact not really so. Did I say that I or anyone else on the entire planet is waiting for 80k to come back? No, I did not, and you saying such a thing is simply a canard, to cover, the wrong statement/judgement that you made.

I mean if you really want to go back down memory lane and see how poor this all is...............If we go back to when it was 80k, that was it, there was no high or low. When it went to 90k, 90k was the lowest, and 150k or so was the highest,again, that was it. Then it went to 125k, and you actually had a very good chance of getting that level half the time, It graduated up to 250k, but, that was it. Now there is a floor of 128k, which hardly anyone can ever get, in order to get it you need to book 60 days in advance (something that none of the previous versions had, and people have reported rates up to 600k or so. Oh, yeah, if your travel starts in Europe you can also be looking at $400-500 per ticket. So no, I do not think that its "only" a 3k change in price, if you believe that, you have bought hook line and sinker into what Delta has been selling these past few years.............

Well my response was the second one on the thread (and IIRC I was typing it at the same time as the first response), so yeah, I guess my fault for anticipating that we'd get the usual "Things were so much better before" responses and trying to get ahead of them. If your argument is that this is not a good deal because you could get a similar itinerary for fewer miles 2 or 5 or 10 years ago; I would suggest that that is not a valid argument because last time I checked, my calendar said it is 2019.

Today, right now, in June 2019, 128k for a roundtrip, transatlantic trip in business using DL miles is a good deal and OP should buy the ticket he/she has found.

I added the comment about the 3k increase (and how long ago it occurred) because my guess is OP doesn't care what was a good deal 5 or 10 years ago and may get distracted by all the other repetitive devaluation threads/posts that litter this forum with information that is no longer current or relevant. OP wants to know if they are getting a good deal right now. This is a good deal right now.

I'd also ask that you stop putting words in my mouth as I never said this was a "wonderful" or "remarkable" deal - you seem to have read into that. I have said that 128k is a good deal in the context of OP, that it was one of the lowest prices OP would find currently, and that I didn't believe this particular award had significantly lost value since award charts went away. I still stand by all three of those statements. If you've got 128k DL miles right now, this is probably one of the better ways to spend them.

No, you said, " This is actually one place where DL miles have not lost an immense amount of value" which is just WRONG. It's 3k miles plus a 60 day advanced purchase, not to mention that 125k only existed seemingly for a few minutes........

So it is actually 38k PLUS
A sixty day advance purchase AND
Rarely available, I would posit maybe 3% of the time, while the 125k was available half the time, AND
If you are buying tickets in the other direction, the fees etc have multiplied by a factor of 3 - 7x.....

So I would say that they have in fact lost a great amount of value, and that value is far greater than................3k.

Again, you are the one who brought this up!

Ok.