Delta Celebrates 100 Days no Cancelations
#61
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You'd hope, but American sure as heck doesn't manage 100 no-cancel days a year. I don't think United does either, but they're probably close.
Interestingly, Delta says they are at 31 consecutive days with no cancellations as of Wednesday: https://news.delta.com/delta-flew-mo...e-cancellation. Maybe they'll break the 37 day record from 2017 after all. The cancellations I referenced above on Wednesday were diversions and 99XX flights which they don't count as cancellations.
Interestingly, Delta says they are at 31 consecutive days with no cancellations as of Wednesday: https://news.delta.com/delta-flew-mo...e-cancellation. Maybe they'll break the 37 day record from 2017 after all. The cancellations I referenced above on Wednesday were diversions and 99XX flights which they don't count as cancellations.
#62
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Also, I’m guessing those numbers include the flights cancelled from the 737 groundings...and will skew the statistics on cancellations numbers until those that were scheduled previously and were not replaced are cleared from the time frames, yes?
#63
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I can't imagine that (advance) schedule changes are considered cancellations.
#64
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Fair enough. Those numbers just seem SO high for AA and SW (who have the most of the most grounded 737s). Even considering weather in TX etc. But I admit to not being knowledgeable about exactly what may, or may not be included in the stats.
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#66
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FAs love it to. We’re paid scheduled block time or actual block time, whichever is greater. So that padding actually costs the company quite a bit over the course of a year.
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Delta is not affected by the 737 MAX grounding as it doesn't have any of those planes.
#68
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Yeah, fair point, their utilization is probably quite high; DL's is probably quite a bit lower, which (in general) allows them to pad schedule times a bit two, which helps on-time arrivals.
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You'd hope, but American sure as heck doesn't manage 100 no-cancel days a year. I don't think United does either, but they're probably close.
Interestingly, Delta says they are at 31 consecutive days with no cancellations as of Wednesday: https://news.delta.com/delta-flew-mo...e-cancellation. Maybe they'll break the 37 day record from 2017 after all. The cancellations I referenced above on Wednesday were diversions and 99XX flights which they don't count as cancellations.
Interestingly, Delta says they are at 31 consecutive days with no cancellations as of Wednesday: https://news.delta.com/delta-flew-mo...e-cancellation. Maybe they'll break the 37 day record from 2017 after all. The cancellations I referenced above on Wednesday were diversions and 99XX flights which they don't count as cancellations.
#71
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United is getting way better - with mainline at least. American just doesn't give a crap. And contrary to the posts above, it's not just the MAX factor. I agree that they may run the schedules a bit tighter now, but they cancelled out tons of flights in advance as a result of the MAX issues. That has already run its course. These cancellations are just the usual operational incompetence of American. And when I say operational incompetence, I mean it. American's ops right now are just embarrassing. They are performing like it's still the 70's when it wasn't possible to have integrated, real time dynamic crew and equipment planning or predictive maintenance with continuously measured performance factors that allow for effective continuous improvement.
It's incredible to me that the world's largest airline (American) can't drive more operational excellence. They have the scale and they have the money. Unfortunately I fear it is a cultural gap and those are much harder to solve than any other business challenge.
Southwest's ops are a bit of a mess too - their numbers may be better than American, but they should be higher given the hyper simple ops they run (any plane can run any route with any crew). That said, they do run things tighter than the legacies for obvious reasons so it's difficult to do a direct comparison.