Claiming my space
Apr 24, 2019, 10:02 am
#16
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I would have probably offered a compromise upon seeing the bag there - I get that he wanted the extra legroom and comfort of not having his stuff under the seat in front of him. A reasonable compromise would have been “I (in 21F) will put my stuff under 19F for takeoff and landing and you (20E) put your stuff under the seat in front of you (19E) for takeoff and landing. After takeoff I (21F) can move my stuff out and place it in the extra space between my legs and you (20E) can put your stuff under 19F - I’ll put my bag back under 19F just before landing”.
If that compromise offer failed, I would then get the crew involved to settle it.
If that compromise offer failed, I would then get the crew involved to settle it.
Apr 24, 2019, 10:13 am
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If someone put their bags in the space in front of my seat, I would not be so diplomatic. I would simply pick it up and move it. No discussion. Who says you get extra legroom? The seatmap. If you choose a seat with no seat in front of it FOR the extra legroom, that's part of the benefits you bargained for in booking with the airline. You showed an extraordinary amount of restraint with this guy, I imagine I would not have remained so cool. Well played.
Apr 24, 2019, 10:18 am
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In my view, this is shared space; 4A extends rightward far enough that it is in front of both Y seats, IMHO. I think you’ve settled on the right strategy - selecting 5CD is better if you want to ensure free underseat storage in front of you.
Apr 24, 2019, 1:53 pm
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I'm not sure if you are trying to be smart (because DL owns it all, is that your point?) or something else. However, pax pay more to sit in seats with extra leg room, either through fees or achieving elite status to get these seats without paying a fee/fare increase. While pax may not actually own the space, most of them certainly have paid for it as an amenity on any particular flight.
Apr 24, 2019, 2:31 pm
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Needless to say they were bothered but I pretended not to speak Spanish.
Apr 24, 2019, 3:18 pm
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Apr 24, 2019, 5:46 pm
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Apr 24, 2019, 5:59 pm
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To see where is MY space, I use common sense and "regulations/rules"...
In all flight EACH passengers MUST have a safety card (period). they even put a little space for this on bulkhead.
The question is WHERE is YOUR safety card... The space between your seat you YOUR safety card belong to YOU.
Also for EACH seat it suppose to have an sickness bag.
I will advise the other passenger sometime I am sick in flight, and this mean I can be sick between my seat and where is MY sickness bag (in case he care about is "stuff").
Also (if my memory is good, I must check on my next flight), the safety video "say", put your belonging under the seat in FRONT of you (it is why bulkhead seat can not have belonging on the floor).
If this did not convince him where is MY space, it is a FA situation...
In all flight EACH passengers MUST have a safety card (period). they even put a little space for this on bulkhead.
The question is WHERE is YOUR safety card... The space between your seat you YOUR safety card belong to YOU.
Also for EACH seat it suppose to have an sickness bag.
I will advise the other passenger sometime I am sick in flight, and this mean I can be sick between my seat and where is MY sickness bag (in case he care about is "stuff").
Also (if my memory is good, I must check on my next flight), the safety video "say", put your belonging under the seat in FRONT of you (it is why bulkhead seat can not have belonging on the floor).
If this did not convince him where is MY space, it is a FA situation...
Last edited by FBplatinum; Apr 24, 2019 at 7:04 pm
Apr 24, 2019, 9:29 pm
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I'm not sure if you are trying to be smart (because DL owns it all, is that your point?) or something else. However, pax pay more to sit in seats with extra leg room, either through fees or achieving elite status to get these seats without paying a fee/fare increase. While pax may not actually own the space, most of them certainly have paid for it as an amenity on any particular flight.
Apr 24, 2019, 10:31 pm
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Apr 24, 2019, 11:05 pm
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that was enforced on a Vueling A320 flight where we were in the forward exit row, but I have never seen it on a domestic US flight (AA, AS, DL, UA; going back farther, I can’t recall any mention on NW, TW, CO, HP either)
Apr 24, 2019, 11:08 pm
#29
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I had a similar experience on a DTW-NRT trip. Booked 41J on the A350 and the couple traveling in row 40 decided to put their bags/coolers (yes, coolers - in addition to all of the in-flight catering they brought additional meals/snacks) in the space in front of me.
Figured the flight attendants would say something because as you state it blocks emergency exit access, but alas they did not.
Figured the flight attendants would say something because as you state it blocks emergency exit access, but alas they did not.
Apr 25, 2019, 12:34 am
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I'm not 100% sure but I think this may also be the policy for most European airlines. I was surprised when I started flying in the US that I could put my bag under the seat in an emergency exit because I was so used to BA (and I think other airlines) not allowing it.
