Delta Air Lines Plans to Reduce Seat Recline in Bet to Make Flyers Happy
Apr 12, 2019, 9:49 am
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What planes are you flying on that are "already generously backward leaning?" Maybe, maybe Delta is in a position to decide if 2 to 4 inches is something that pays off for them vs. who won't fly but in my opinion you aren't. I have been contemplating a change of jobs because of my medical condition. Maybe they can find someone as loyal as I am to replace me. Maybe they will get someone taller that will be more loyal and profitable than I am because of reduction. Maybe not.
Apr 12, 2019, 9:56 am
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2" will probably be okay if really kept to aircraft operating shorter flights (obviously B6 uses A320s on trancons, so nothing preventing DL from doing same).
But no recline is not acceptable, I find it very uncomfortable on my back.
As others have said, the issue in F is one of their own making by having uncompetitive (well maybe not for much longer as AA densifies) pitch up front.
But no recline is not acceptable, I find it very uncomfortable on my back.
As others have said, the issue in F is one of their own making by having uncompetitive (well maybe not for much longer as AA densifies) pitch up front.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:03 am
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Apr 12, 2019, 10:04 am
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You are kidding right? You wanna take away the moderate seat recline which alleviates some of my back pain because someone wants to use a laptop behind me? Your solution is for me to stop flying?
What's next? You don't like animals so people who rely on a service animal should just take the bus? You don't like crying babies so parents need to just not show up on flights anymore?
Oh yeah, you LOVE peanuts so anyone with an allergy can piss off.
Flying on an airplane will be just for the physically fit and medically healthy. After that you'll have to have blonde hair and blue eyes... SMH
What's next? You don't like animals so people who rely on a service animal should just take the bus? You don't like crying babies so parents need to just not show up on flights anymore?
Oh yeah, you LOVE peanuts so anyone with an allergy can piss off.
Flying on an airplane will be just for the physically fit and medically healthy. After that you'll have to have blonde hair and blue eyes... SMH
Delta's seats are already generously pre-reclined, and they still allow an additional 2". If you need more than that, you should consider flying in F where they will maintain at least 3" of recline (and have more pre-recline).
Apr 12, 2019, 10:09 am
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Count me as another one in favor of this change. Limiting the amount of recline will help a lot, particularly in F where pitch is far too narrow for the amount that's currently permitted.
I see the dissent here, but I could rewrite many of the concerns about back pain in reverse about my own claustrophobia, which is also a medical condition. Setting recline to a balanced amount by the airline helps avoid passenger conflict and accommodates passengers of all afflictions, which I think is appropriate for the greater good.
I see the dissent here, but I could rewrite many of the concerns about back pain in reverse about my own claustrophobia, which is also a medical condition. Setting recline to a balanced amount by the airline helps avoid passenger conflict and accommodates passengers of all afflictions, which I think is appropriate for the greater good.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:21 am
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As soon as you get working and plug it in, the person next to you always wants to get up. Plus, even if they don't to get up there really isn't enough room for all three people to use a computer comfortably at the same time. Guess we have to remove middle seats now.
I always recline and do so for the duration of the flight as soon as we are in the air.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:24 am
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If we're concerned about passengers in second and third classes (aka comfort-plus and main cabin) using their laptop computers then we better get rid of the middle seat because using a computer will always be problematic in a fully occupied row of three seats. As soon as you get working and plug it in, the person next to you always wants to get up. Plus, even if they don't to get up there really isn't enough room for all three people to use a computer comfortably at the same time. Guess we have to remove middle seats now.
C+ pitch comfortably allows for laptop use if the person in front of you doesn't recline. That's practically the whole point of C+. Quite frankly if you don't need to use a laptop or otherwise use the space, 31" seat pitch with no recline is tolerable (assuming you can keep the area below the seat free to put your legs under the seat) even for someone tall like myself.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:27 am
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Scheduled air access by the disabled is a right - see the Air Carrier Access Act. Use of a laptop in coach is not a right.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:29 am
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And who uses a laptop anymore?
I thought all the cool kids used their tablets and smart phones.
I'm in first-class or business-class on almost every flight. I think I've been in comfort-plus or, worse yet, main cabin maybe three or four times in 16 months. I hardly ever see anyone use a laptop anymore, at least on flights under 2 hours. And when I do see someone they're typically over 40.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:33 am
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Yes - scheduled air access by the disabled is a right (as opposed to laptop usage). As a point of clarification, however, airlines do not have to make unreasonable accommodations or make significant changes to cabin design simply to accommodate disabled passengers. Regulations concerning disabled passenger access cover things like movable aisle armrests, providing boarding support, accessible lavatories, and ensuring storage of certain items on a flight. It does not require reclining (which should be obvious given the fact that many air carriers in the US do not allow any recline at all).
Apr 12, 2019, 10:37 am
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Really? The "whole point" of comfort-plus is using a laptop?
And who uses a laptop anymore?
I thought all the cool kids used their tablets and smart phones.
I'm in first-class or business-class on almost every flight. I think I've been in comfort-plus or, worse yet, main cabin maybe three or four times in 16 months. I hardly ever see anyone use a laptop anymore, at least on flights under 2 hours. And when I do see someone they're typically over 40.
And who uses a laptop anymore?
I thought all the cool kids used their tablets and smart phones.
I'm in first-class or business-class on almost every flight. I think I've been in comfort-plus or, worse yet, main cabin maybe three or four times in 16 months. I hardly ever see anyone use a laptop anymore, at least on flights under 2 hours. And when I do see someone they're typically over 40.
Admittedly I spend most of my time on 4-5 hour flights. Agree that fewer laptops come out on sub-2 hour block time flights given that time at altitude on those flights is usually only an hour at most.
