FA stay seated whole flight
Apr 8, 2019, 9:56 pm
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Delta is so scared of FAs unionizing I wonder if this will ever get better despite customers complaining. They’ll always say it’s under the veil of safety which we know it is not like 80 percent of the time.
Apr 8, 2019, 10:03 pm
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That's a bit of a laugh. I know Europe is not America, but I've been on flights like London-Paris or Geneva-London of about an hour's duration in the air where the crew manages to serve 150 passengers a full trayed lunch or snack. It's not the duration that rules out amenities, it's crew accountability and motivation.
Seems to me that "turbulence" is being used more and more these days to suspend or eliminate cabin service.
Apr 9, 2019, 3:22 am
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Honestly, I think there should be no service on flights under an hour. On a ATL-TPA flight on a 739 a few days ago, the crew struggled to complete a full service due to the flight being like 56 minutes. I am fine not eating/drinking for that short of a period. Maybe they could leave the water bottles that are always in F at every seat.
Apr 9, 2019, 5:09 am
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It’s a lack of service standard. Sub 1 hr flights in Asia get you full meals and in the US flights are “too short” for water.
Apr 9, 2019, 6:58 am
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Once the forward door is closed management can't make them do anything.
Apr 9, 2019, 8:40 am
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On short flight in F I've noticed the service is a lot better on a connection carrier than mainline Delta flights.
Apr 9, 2019, 9:38 am
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Absolutely Fabulous
yUOTE=flyerCO;30978439]I understand turbulence happens. However multiple times now on short SLC flights the crew stays seated the whole flight. They claim there's turbulence that severe. Only one problem! There is no turbulence, at all. It seems they just don't want to work. No service to the F cabin. Heck, they don't even get up to do a final cabin check! As a pilot I've gone online to look at PIREPs
, TAFs, SIGMETS and winds aloft. None indicate severe turbulence, in fact PIREPs normally indicate no turbulence .
Last night again flying out of SLC. Not one bump. Yet again, stay seated whole flight duration.[/QUOTE]
There is a film of a UK TV comedy series called Absolutely Fabulous. There's an airline boarding scene where a flight attendant describes herself as the designated DNB (do nothing person) - not the expression used but trying to stay within the rules!. It's very funny and clearly this FA is a follower of AbFab
, TAFs, SIGMETS and winds aloft. None indicate severe turbulence, in fact PIREPs normally indicate no turbulence .
Last night again flying out of SLC. Not one bump. Yet again, stay seated whole flight duration.[/QUOTE]
There is a film of a UK TV comedy series called Absolutely Fabulous. There's an airline boarding scene where a flight attendant describes herself as the designated DNB (do nothing person) - not the expression used but trying to stay within the rules!. It's very funny and clearly this FA is a follower of AbFab
Apr 9, 2019, 10:31 am
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That's a bit of a laugh. I know Europe is not America, but I've been on flights like London-Paris or Geneva-London of about an hour's duration in the air where the crew manages to serve 150 passengers a full trayed lunch or snack. It's not the duration that rules out amenities, it's crew accountability and motivation.
Apr 9, 2019, 1:30 pm
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Interesting to read this thread - 4/8 I flew DCA-CVG-LAX. Sat up front on the short DCA-CVG flight on Endeavor and had great service from a friendly FA, in fact just wrote in to compliment her.
CVG-LAX was really bumpy for the first 90 minutes or so. I was in PE on this one. The FA got earphones out to PE before we took off and explained they would hold off on service until we cleared the turbulence. But once we did, excellent service, several passes for beverages and the full snack basket. The FA event went back to get some more bananas when they ran out just before me. Even the FC FA brought a tray of coffees and teas to PE. This thread makes me think I need to compliment this crew too.
CVG-LAX was really bumpy for the first 90 minutes or so. I was in PE on this one. The FA got earphones out to PE before we took off and explained they would hold off on service until we cleared the turbulence. But once we did, excellent service, several passes for beverages and the full snack basket. The FA event went back to get some more bananas when they ran out just before me. Even the FC FA brought a tray of coffees and teas to PE. This thread makes me think I need to compliment this crew too.
Apr 9, 2019, 1:54 pm
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Interesting to read this thread - 4/8 I flew DCA-CVG-LAX. Sat up front on the short DCA-CVG flight on Endeavor and had great service from a friendly FA, in fact just wrote in to compliment her.
CVG-LAX was really bumpy for the first 90 minutes or so. I was in PE on this one. The FA got earphones out to PE before we took off and explained they would hold off on service until we cleared the turbulence. But once we did, excellent service, several passes for beverages and the full snack basket. The FA event went back to get some more bananas when they ran out just before me. Even the FC FA brought a tray of coffees and teas to PE. This thread makes me think I need to compliment this crew too.
CVG-LAX was really bumpy for the first 90 minutes or so. I was in PE on this one. The FA got earphones out to PE before we took off and explained they would hold off on service until we cleared the turbulence. But once we did, excellent service, several passes for beverages and the full snack basket. The FA event went back to get some more bananas when they ran out just before me. Even the FC FA brought a tray of coffees and teas to PE. This thread makes me think I need to compliment this crew too.
Apr 9, 2019, 2:02 pm
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If there was info indicating it was even a possibility I'd understand, especially given short length of flight. However, as noted in OP, I've looked up PIREPs, SIGMETs, TAFs, and Winds Aloft. Negative on all but one or two flights for turbulence of any moderation, muchless significant turbulence requring sitting down for whole flight.
Apr 9, 2019, 2:42 pm
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While Pireps, Sigmet's, and TAF's do provide some basic information to us public, airline operations and dispatchers have access to much better weather and turbulence data. Stability reports, lift index reports, standard temperature deviations, etc, all fed into fancy software to predict turbulence. When I visited operations once, I was amazed at what they had access too, and all right there on a fancy map. It's a lot more information that what us get too see on the normal aviation weather sites that don't require a subscription.
Apr 9, 2019, 8:09 pm
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Interesting to read this thread - 4/8 I flew DCA-CVG-LAX. Sat up front on the short DCA-CVG flight on Endeavor and had great service from a friendly FA, in fact just wrote in to compliment her.
CVG-LAX was really bumpy for the first 90 minutes or so. I was in PE on this one. The FA got earphones out to PE before we took off and explained they would hold off on service until we cleared the turbulence. But once we did, excellent service, several passes for beverages and the full snack basket. The FA event went back to get some more bananas when they ran out just before me. Even the FC FA brought a tray of coffees and teas to PE. This thread makes me think I need to compliment this crew too.
CVG-LAX was really bumpy for the first 90 minutes or so. I was in PE on this one. The FA got earphones out to PE before we took off and explained they would hold off on service until we cleared the turbulence. But once we did, excellent service, several passes for beverages and the full snack basket. The FA event went back to get some more bananas when they ran out just before me. Even the FC FA brought a tray of coffees and teas to PE. This thread makes me think I need to compliment this crew too.
I suspect that there's no PE = Premium Economy cabin on CVG-LAX as I don't believe DL uses either the A350 or 777 on this route. Couldn't you mean C+ seats?
Apr 9, 2019, 11:05 pm
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LOL. Classic. And dead on. You think it's bad on DL? Try #Iflyalaska
Those FAs must have joined from Alaska.
Its a normal occurrence on Alaska short flights. In my opinion these FAs should be the ones piloting the aircraft as they know more about the turbulence then pilots.
On one of my Alaska flights, the pilot pointedly came on and announced that the flight will be smooth RIGHT AFTER FA announced that they will not serve due to turbulence that is expected. Go Figure!
Its a normal occurrence on Alaska short flights. In my opinion these FAs should be the ones piloting the aircraft as they know more about the turbulence then pilots.
On one of my Alaska flights, the pilot pointedly came on and announced that the flight will be smooth RIGHT AFTER FA announced that they will not serve due to turbulence that is expected. Go Figure!