New 764 D1 Suites won't have doors
Apr 4, 2019, 11:06 am
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I'm surprised they didn't do anything to increase the comfort of the D1 seats either. I flew D1 SLC-LHR on a 763 and it paled compared to an A330 on ATL-EZE. At least on TATL out of BOS and JFK, the flights are short enough to make this less of a factor than it is on TPAC or West Coast - Europe.
It's especially frustrating as a lot of these TATL routes are Delta's highest yielding routes (especially per-flight-hour) given the anti-competitive JVs in place with the US3.
Apr 4, 2019, 11:22 am
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Those are not suites! Those are the current coffins with some extra walls around them and new finishing. That's a refurb of what they have... Particularly on the aisle side pic from TPG you can tell.
With the 40>34 J they'll probably take out 1.5 rows and add some Y+ ...
With the 40>34 J they'll probably take out 1.5 rows and add some Y+ ...
Apr 4, 2019, 11:31 am
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Apr 4, 2019, 11:34 am
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Am I missing something here? These look like the same old 764 seats with new upholstery + a hook for headphones and a little lip for some extra privacy.
Updating.....saw the TPG photos and can def tell the updates/differences.
Updating.....saw the TPG photos and can def tell the updates/differences.
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Apr 4, 2019, 12:00 pm
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I actually think the opposite.. I want the most comfortable seats for the short TATL flights because that is where it is most critical to fall asleep quickly as you're already at best getting 5 hours of rest.
It's especially frustrating as a lot of these TATL routes are Delta's highest yielding routes (especially per-flight-hour) given the anti-competitive JVs in place with the US3.
It's especially frustrating as a lot of these TATL routes are Delta's highest yielding routes (especially per-flight-hour) given the anti-competitive JVs in place with the US3.
Apr 4, 2019, 1:29 pm
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So is there actually more pitch to these seats? They really look only like a minor refurb. Disappointing.
On the lavs - 2 for 40 is definitely not enough, 2 for 34 is stretching it a bit, but probably okay.
Apr 4, 2019, 1:53 pm
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These are interior reconfigurations of existing aircraft. DL can't just remove a door, and they probably can't block off a door for safety reasons.
OTOH an airplane without any doors at all would make it difficult for terrorists. I didn't realize that Boeing was that far into autopilot when we don't have reliable self driving cars yet. Three dimensions should be harder than two.
OTOH an airplane without any doors at all would make it difficult for terrorists. I didn't realize that Boeing was that far into autopilot when we don't have reliable self driving cars yet. Three dimensions should be harder than two.
Apr 4, 2019, 3:34 pm
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Apr 4, 2019, 3:37 pm
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The seats marketed as "D1 Suites" are also not suites, they're just J seats with a gimmicky door. For proper suites, check out SQ, EK, etc.
Apr 4, 2019, 3:39 pm
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Apr 4, 2019, 3:55 pm
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Delta appears to agree with you: their own language in the images at the top of this thread refers to them as seats, not suites. In addition, their press release from today goes out of its way to not refer to the new product as “suites” at any point.
Apr 4, 2019, 4:48 pm
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Apr 4, 2019, 5:42 pm
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Why? Delta is NOT calling them suites. Notice the PR:
"And in November 2019, the airline will introduce on these routes fully refurbished Boeing 767-400s, featuring a modern interior and all four branded seat products – including a more private Delta One experience, Delta Premium Select, Delta Comfort+ and Main Cabin – to give customers greater choice when they travel. Delta's refreshed 764-400 aircraft will also feature the new wireless IFE system developed by Delta Flight Products with seat-back entertainment screens in every cabin and thoughtful touches like full-spectrum LED ambient lighting and memory foam cushions throughout the aircraft for added comfort"
https://news.delta.com/new-paths-acr...-york-jfk-2020
At best the thread should have the word SEATS!
"And in November 2019, the airline will introduce on these routes fully refurbished Boeing 767-400s, featuring a modern interior and all four branded seat products – including a more private Delta One experience, Delta Premium Select, Delta Comfort+ and Main Cabin – to give customers greater choice when they travel. Delta's refreshed 764-400 aircraft will also feature the new wireless IFE system developed by Delta Flight Products with seat-back entertainment screens in every cabin and thoughtful touches like full-spectrum LED ambient lighting and memory foam cushions throughout the aircraft for added comfort"
https://news.delta.com/new-paths-acr...-york-jfk-2020
At best the thread should have the word SEATS!
Apr 4, 2019, 5:52 pm
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Moving the lavs up and dropping a row (but keeping J between L1 and L2) makes room for the W cabin, which can apparently be more profitable on a square foot basis than J, so presumably that would make the beancounters happy. Also reducing J supply should increase prices, as we've seen on most other configs. I guess they won't be able to add the $500 surcharge without the door, though.
I suppose it might be possible if they took out the back part of the forward gally and put two extra D1 seats there and took out 2 rows in the back and that makes room for 3 rows of W? That's pretty amazing if so (6J seats for 18 W seats is a great revenue tradeoff...).
Regardless.. it's just incredibly disappointing that they are keeping the worst product in the fleet after the refurb. Adding some high walls to the seats does not make the seat any better.
It makes me sad to say but I guess I'm looking forward to 2025-2026 when most of these birds are retired.
