Columbus CMH - no SkyClub
Mar 25, 2019, 8:22 am
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Atlanta (inside city limits) is smaller than Columbus.
I vote they box up the Concourse B Sky Club and ship it up to you.
You can mount it high above one of your concourses.
I vote they box up the Concourse B Sky Club and ship it up to you.
You can mount it high above one of your concourses.
Mar 25, 2019, 8:37 am
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Does this include shipping up the crabby bartenders, surly staff and huge crowds in the B club? It’s just not the B club without those fun features.
Mar 25, 2019, 8:55 am
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On a side note, the funny thing about the Concourse B lounge is it proves that science is right. As with highways, enlarging something doesn't reduce the congestion and overcrowding. It just makes it worse.
Mar 25, 2019, 8:56 am
#34
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This post reminds me of the bizarre heated arguments on a.net between Midwesterners (IND, PIT, CLE, CVG, CMH, etc.) about how *their* airport DESERVES transatlantic service and the other airports don't.
Folks, the airline industry is a commercial enterprise. This is not a grant funding application. If it's profitable enough, they will probably do it.
Folks, the airline industry is a commercial enterprise. This is not a grant funding application. If it's profitable enough, they will probably do it.
Mar 25, 2019, 9:14 am
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DL's decision where to place SCs is all about premium and elite passenger volumes and not total passenger counts. From DL's POV there must not be enough volume for the numbers to work. Not only do the number not work for DL, but they seem to not work for AA or UA either, and AA has more traffic in and out of CMH than DL does.
No SC aside, the DL terminal in CMH, and the CMH airport as a whole is so bland and uninspired. Limited food options post-security worsened by the fact that the three concourses are not connected post-security. A major fail for an airport this size. Not an airport on the top half of my favorite airports list.
No SC aside, the DL terminal in CMH, and the CMH airport as a whole is so bland and uninspired. Limited food options post-security worsened by the fact that the three concourses are not connected post-security. A major fail for an airport this size. Not an airport on the top half of my favorite airports list.
Mar 25, 2019, 9:38 am
#36
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I'm really surprised that Delta doesn't have a Sky Club in Columbus. Especially considering the fact that Columbus is the second-biggest city in the Midwest, beyond only Chicago. Yes, I realize Columbus isn't a hub -- it isn't a hub for any airline -- but it's amazing there isn't a Delta lounge, let alone a Priority Pass lounge.
Stepping off the soapbox now.
I have a friend who's a gate agent at CMH and he's said there are a number of people who check in and are surprised to find no Club. Leading into:
My biggest complaint about CMH and Delta is they make you walk past all these unused gates to get to the farthest gate (C56) to get your flight. I think they do it so you have to walk past all the stores and the airport gets more rent. They are the biggest airline in the C concourse and they should have gates closest to security.
The majority of mainline flights leave C54-56. This could be because the holdrooms are much larger than at other gates and/or these gates are the most versatile in terms of the fleet types used (see below). I'm typically there in the 4-7pm range, with an RJ to DTW usually at 54, mainline to ATL at 55, and mainline to MSP at 56. Occasionally, you'll have a mainline flight go off C50, especially early morning, and LAX tends to leave from C51. (C52 and C53 are on a double jetway that can't handle anything larger than an E175.)
CRAA had an RFP for jetways last year which gives you an idea as to which gates can handle which planes:
C50: DC‐9,MD80/88/90,737‐7,738,739,CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E170,A3 21,A320,A319,B717,E145
C51:CRJ200,CRJ700,E175,E190,A320,A319,E145,DC‐9,B7 37‐700,B737‐800,B737‐900,CRJ900
C52:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E170,E135,E145
C53:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E170,E135,E145
C54:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E190,A320,A319,B717, B737‐700,B737‐800,B737‐900,E145,DC95,DC9‐4,DC9 ‐3,MD88,MD90
C55:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E190,A320,A319,B717, 737‐700,737‐800,737‐900,E145,DC‐95,DC‐94,DC‐93,MD8 8,MD 90,E135,757‐200
C56:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E190,A320,A319,B717, 737‐700,737‐800,737‐900,E145,DC‐95,DC‐94,DC‐93,MD8 8,MD90,E135,757‐200,767
C51:CRJ200,CRJ700,E175,E190,A320,A319,E145,DC‐9,B7 37‐700,B737‐800,B737‐900,CRJ900
C52:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E170,E135,E145
C53:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E170,E135,E145
C54:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E190,A320,A319,B717, B737‐700,B737‐800,B737‐900,E145,DC95,DC9‐4,DC9 ‐3,MD88,MD90
C55:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E190,A320,A319,B717, 737‐700,737‐800,737‐900,E145,DC‐95,DC‐94,DC‐93,MD8 8,MD 90,E135,757‐200
C56:CRJ200,CRJ700,CRJ900,E175,E190,A320,A319,B717, 737‐700,737‐800,737‐900,E145,DC‐95,DC‐94,DC‐93,MD8 8,MD90,E135,757‐200,767
Last edited by JSprague24; Mar 25, 2019 at 9:46 am
Mar 25, 2019, 12:36 pm
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CSA's (in millions):
BNA is 2.03
MIA is 6.8
Houston: 7.09
Bay area: 8.8
SAT is not part of a CSA due to geography, but MSA is 2.47mil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area
Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 pm
#38
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Love you TTUN folks coming to Columbus and giving us your tax dollars, etc. every 2 years for your annual beat down. Heck, TTUN has not won a game in Columbus since 2000!
I've lived in Columbus for most of my life. We used to have a Southwest non-stop to Oakland. That stopped a few months ago.
Alaska just started direct service to Seattle. Hope it sticks around.
Columbus is supposed to be the 2nd largest city in the Midwest during the upcoming decade.
Red coat last year told me they are planning on putting a SkyClub in when the new terminal is built...who knows when that is.
Not having a direct flight to Europe hurts. CVG, IND, DTW and PIT all have them.
I've lived in Columbus for most of my life. We used to have a Southwest non-stop to Oakland. That stopped a few months ago.
Alaska just started direct service to Seattle. Hope it sticks around.
Columbus is supposed to be the 2nd largest city in the Midwest during the upcoming decade.
Red coat last year told me they are planning on putting a SkyClub in when the new terminal is built...who knows when that is.
Not having a direct flight to Europe hurts. CVG, IND, DTW and PIT all have them.
Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 pm
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Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 pm
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I'm really surprised that Delta doesn't have a Sky Club in Columbus. Especially considering the fact that Columbus is the second-biggest city in the Midwest, beyond only Chicago. Yes, I realize Columbus isn't a hub -- it isn't a hub for any airline -- but it's amazing there isn't a Delta lounge, let alone a Priority Pass lounge.
Stepping off the soapbox now.
Stepping off the soapbox now.
I do agree that space is a factor and did not know the second floor area after TSA is airside. What a perfect spot for a club. Thanks @JSprague24 for that info, though I do take issue with the C54-56 area because of that ridiculous restaurant. The C55 boarding door opens directly into it causing huge amounts of efficient Gate Lice clogs coupled with the SkyCap golf carts trying to drive through.
DL's decision where to place SCs is all about premium and elite passenger volumes and not total passenger counts. From DL's POV there must not be enough volume for the numbers to work. Not only do the number not work for DL, but they seem to not work for AA or UA either, and AA has more traffic in and out of CMH than DL does.
DL DID use the gates closest to security (today known as C46, a door (call it C47A) for RJs, C47, and C48) before the expansion of C in 2002 (WN had C49 and 50). When the expansion was finished, they moved to C52-56 and added C51 for NW in 2009 as the merger was taking place.
What gets interesting are the RONs/early morning flights. CMH has 3 to ATL (which are typically some combination of 738/739/M88/M90/occasional 757), a 738 to MSP, a 738 to LAX and, in a couple months, will add a 319 to SLC.
What gets interesting are the RONs/early morning flights. CMH has 3 to ATL (which are typically some combination of 738/739/M88/M90/occasional 757), a 738 to MSP, a 738 to LAX and, in a couple months, will add a 319 to SLC.
Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 pm
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I don’t think there’s any soapbox to be on. I call CMH home now and am adding it to the list of airports which surprisingly don’t have a Skyclub (IAD is the only other on the list). I generally depart on the first flights of the morning and return late morning/early afternoon. There is not a time of day when there isn’t a gate being prepped for arrival or departure.
Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 pm
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I've lived in Columbus for most of my life. We used to have a Southwest non-stop to Oakland. That stopped a few months ago.
Alaska just started direct service to Seattle. Hope it sticks around.
Columbus is supposed to be the 2nd largest city in the Midwest during the upcoming decade.
Red coat last year told me they are planning on putting a SkyClub in when the new terminal is built...who knows when that is.
Not having a direct flight to Europe hurts. CVG, IND, DTW and PIT all have them.
Alaska just started direct service to Seattle. Hope it sticks around.
Columbus is supposed to be the 2nd largest city in the Midwest during the upcoming decade.
Red coat last year told me they are planning on putting a SkyClub in when the new terminal is built...who knows when that is.
Not having a direct flight to Europe hurts. CVG, IND, DTW and PIT all have them.
-The new terminal is 2030 at the very earliest.
-CRAA and DL have been talking about a TATL flight (rumored to be AMS), but it comes down to money.
Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 pm
#44
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Also---I think CMH would be an ideal candidate for an Escape Lounge. The Amex Plat-accessible Escape Lounges tend to be in smaller markets with no other clubs (e.g. GSP@1m, RNO@2m, BDL@3m, OAK@6m, etc.) with one notable exception (MSP).
Mar 25, 2019, 4:58 pm
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I always kept the Air France option in mind at IAD but unfortunately my schedule never made it a viable option (first flights, then desperate to get home). The lone time in four years when I would have used it was on a four hour MX delay with an MD88 but they wouldn’t let me in because of expected occupancy from the international flights.
