i finally realized why economy is so bad
#16
Join Date: Mar 2010
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I’m going to get this IBTL and disagree with the OP. While the recline situation is definitely unpleasant, as is the lack of legroom, to me the worst thing about flying economy is the shoulder room. I’m an average sized guy but my typical 19 inch shoulder width doesn’t work well with 17 inch wide seats. Put me next to another average sized guy and we both have to scrunch to fit into the seats.
Agreed. Really hope that that the A220 is the future. I'm a pretty small person but I still just value my personal space
#17
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I gave up on exit rows long ago. I'd rather deal with recline than the invariable person in the middle exit row overflowing into the other seats with the FA's and GA's unwilling to do anything about it.
#18
Join Date: Nov 2013
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It's been a while since I've sat in the exit row. Isn't there a solid partition between seats (instead of movable armrests) so there is no issue with spillover (at least of the abdominal region)?
#19
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I, for one, when in economy would gladly forgo reclining in exchange for not having someone recline in to me -- if someone is reclining into me, I can't use my laptop.
#20
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There are quite a few people who care more about avoiding a seat reclining into them than about being able to recline.
I, for one, when in economy would gladly forgo reclining in exchange for not having someone recline in to me -- if someone is reclining into me, I can't use my laptop.
I, for one, when in economy would gladly forgo reclining in exchange for not having someone recline in to me -- if someone is reclining into me, I can't use my laptop.
#21
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We are entitled to the space of our seats, be it up front, or the back. . . bolt upright or full recline. Being almost 2m tall, I always pray my fellow pax in front of me won't recline.
That being said, I always recline. When doing so, I do it slowly. I then adjust my appendages as needed.
That being said, I always recline. When doing so, I do it slowly. I then adjust my appendages as needed.
#22
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#23
Join Date: Nov 2005
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There are quite a few people who care more about avoiding a seat reclining into them than about being able to recline.
I, for one, when in economy would gladly forgo reclining in exchange for not having someone recline in to me -- if someone is reclining into me, I can't use my laptop.
I, for one, when in economy would gladly forgo reclining in exchange for not having someone recline in to me -- if someone is reclining into me, I can't use my laptop.
Yes, 100% this. If an airline has 31" or less in pitch, recline should be removed. I would prefer 29" seat pitch with no recline than the risk of someone reclining into me than a 30-31" seat with a rude recliner in front of me (and yes, it is rude - even if you think you are "entitled" to that space). Even ignoring the issue with pain from knees jammed into the seat, It basically makes it impossible to work on a laptop at all.