Delta Flight Attendant Uniforms [Consolidated Discussion 2019-2020]
#17
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I’m with you. I believe some people are getting sick. It’s even possible that some have a skin condition that’s worsened by some types of material. However, I don’t believe a lands end uniform is causing people to get sick that otherwise were not sickened by other uniforms.
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I’m with you. I believe some people are getting sick. It’s even possible that some have a skin condition that’s worsened by some types of material. However, I don’t believe a lands end uniform is causing people to get sick that otherwise were not sickened by other uniforms.
1) It is possible, even probable, that some of the complainants aren’t actually allergic or sensitive to the uniforms but are either having a psychosomatic reaction or, because the AA thing is front of mind, are attributing symptoms caused by something else to the uniforms.
2) It is possible, even probable, that some of the complainants have a genuine allergy to something in the uniforms. What I struggle with, though, is what to do about it as I doubt it possible to find uniform materials that are 100% hypoallergenic. It is my understanding that there are some (though a tiny number) that may have an allergy even to unbleached, undyed cotton.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions .I ask that you educate yourself before speaking. There is many effected not just skin rashes. In 27 years 4 uniforms never a reaction. Its not just flight attendants gate agents also. This is real and devastating. I have welts and other physical symptoms to prove it. It effects our health everyday.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions .I ask that you educate yourself before speaking. There is many effected not just skin rashes. In 27 years 4 uniforms never a reaction. Its not just flight attendants gate agents also. This is real and devastating. I have welts and other physical symptoms to prove it. It effects our health everyday.
Thanks for your honesty (assuming you are a DL employee). I'm so sorry that this is happening. Thanks for your service--many of us really appreciate all that you do.
It seems like a fairly straight forward solution would be to produce a line of the same uniforms with an alternative textile, and let employees have a choice. Maybe even three options?
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Just so I am not misinterpreted, my take is two-fold:
1) It is possible, even probable, that some of the complainants aren’t actually allergic or sensitive to the uniforms but are either having a psychosomatic reaction or, because the AA thing is front of mind, are attributing symptoms caused by something else to the uniforms.
2) It is possible, even probable, that some of the complainants have a genuine allergy to something in the uniforms. What I struggle with, though, is what to do about it as I doubt it possible to find uniform materials that are 100% hypoallergenic. It is my understanding that there are some (though a tiny number) that may have an allergy even to unbleached, undyed cotton.
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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Thank you for your concern
Thanks for your honesty (assuming you are a DL employee). I'm so sorry that this is happening. Thanks for your service--many of us really appreciate all that you do.
It seems like a fairly straight forward solution would be to produce a line of the same uniforms with an alternative textile, and let employees have a choice. Maybe even three options?
It seems like a fairly straight forward solution would be to produce a line of the same uniforms with an alternative textile, and let employees have a choice. Maybe even three options?
#23
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They are not. The contested AA uniforms were manufactured by Twin Hill. Delta's current uniforms are manufactured by Lands' End - to which AA has now turned.
https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...ast-track.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...ast-track.html
It's anyone's guess who Twin Hills used for manufacturing as well. They could very well use the same manufacturer for uniform components and not even know it...until Passport Plum dye is showing contact transfer on the FA's overnight.
"Our products are produced globally by independent manufacturers who are selected, monitored and coordinated by the Lands' End Global Sourcing team based in Dodgeville, Wisconsin and other third party buying agents. Our products are manufactured in approximately 30 countries and substantially all are imported from Asia and South America, depending on the nature of the product mix. Our top 10 vendors accounted for approximately 40% of our merchandise purchases in Fiscal 2017. In Fiscal 2017, we worked with approximately 200 vendors that manufactured substantially all of our products. We generally do not enter into long-term merchandise supply contracts. We continue to take advantage of opportunities to more efficiently source our products worldwide, consistent with our high standards of quality and value. Significant areas of non-product spend include transportation, information systems, marketing, packaging and catalog paper and print."
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Just so I am not misinterpreted, my take is two-fold:
1) It is possible, even probable, that some of the complainants aren’t actually allergic or sensitive to the uniforms but are either having a psychosomatic reaction or, because the AA thing is front of mind, are attributing symptoms caused by something else to the uniforms.
2) It is possible, even probable, that some of the complainants have a genuine allergy to something in the uniforms. What I struggle with, though, is what to do about it as I doubt it possible to find uniform materials that are 100% hypoallergenic. It is my understanding that there are some (though a tiny number) that may have an allergy even to unbleached, undyed cotton.
Edit: source of original article is from a fired AA flight attendant turned labor activist, so I'd take the rhetoric from the article with a grain of salt.
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"Land's End does not own or operate any manufacturing facilities and therefore depend upon independent third-party vendors for the manufacture of all merchandise." - 2018 annual report.
It's anyone's guess who Twin Hills used for manufacturing as well. They could very well use the same manufacturer for uniform components and not even know it...until Passport Plum dye is showing contact transfer on the FA's overnight.
It's anyone's guess who Twin Hills used for manufacturing as well. They could very well use the same manufacturer for uniform components and not even know it...until Passport Plum dye is showing contact transfer on the FA's overnight.
As for supply chain control, it's like a consumer saying 'I don't want any parts from India or China in my new xxx pickup.' Well, good luck with that. Medical device suppliers need component-traceable parts production. Very few people want to buy clothing priced like a pacemaker.
Until somebody wants to offer proof of medical issues (with FDA testing oversight?) it seems more likely to fall under psychosomatic causes or labor agitation. Remember the Coca Cola hysteria among Belgian school children in 1998?
However, a preliminary inquiry has suggested that the Coca-Cola alert may have been due to nothing more toxic than an outbreak of mass hysteria. In a letter to the Lancet this week, four members of Belgium's Health Council say that preliminary inquiries suggest last month's epidemic was a case of "mass sociogenic illness" (the more politically-correct term for mass hysteria).
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...llbeing.health
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It seems every time there is a new uniform no matter the airline or if there is union representation you always have these kinds of complaints. There are definitely a FEW (keyword few) individuals who suffer from real allergies to certain fabrics but this just seems very fishy to me.
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Delta Flight Attendants Sue For Uniform Rashes
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It's on CNN this morning. I guess someone at CNN reads the AJC.